tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post2394655678568484395..comments2023-11-05T00:38:56.097-07:00Comments on 21st Century British Nationalism: Jesus Was Not Jewish - He Was A SamaritanDefender of Libertyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16093052197059748663noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-36887951068520987712011-11-28T15:48:36.269-08:002011-11-28T15:48:36.269-08:00Apparently, Jesus's blood group was AB, the sa...Apparently, Jesus's blood group was AB, the same as my own.<br /><br />I've been told, there's Jewish lineage on my maternal side going back nearly 200 years, but I'm not entirely definite about that one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-55890188123813768812011-11-03T01:31:53.017-07:002011-11-03T01:31:53.017-07:00Re Judah - exactly, in each case they refer to fiv...Re Judah - exactly, in each case they refer to five different things - hence their is no consistency. <br /><br />2) 'Tribe' is only in some of the interpretations - the King James version doesnt have tribe in it all. Nor do others.<br /><br />3)There doesnt have to be a scripture introduced to say Mary was a Levite, she was a Levite by logical extension re the other article. The Bible doesnt have to define each issue with a scripture as some facts were regarfded simply as facts. Scriptural authority is not required on each issue, simply as the sacriptures relate to the Bible. The Gnostic Gospels are not in the Bible but relate to Jesus. The issue isnt that the Bible should be regarded as a fact book - it isnt, its a faith book. The issue is the reality of the life of Jesus - which extends beyond what is just in the Bible. That includes archeology, forensic science, linguistic interpretetation, new discoveries etc etc - thats the important issue, not scrioptural doctrine which comes not from Christ but via the people told to compile the Bible by Constantine. They chose for political reasons to keep certsain scriptures in the Bible and others out, hence the Bible has to be read in accord with the Gnostic Gospels and archeology, science etc if we want to understand the real Christ as opposes to the Biblical Christ which contains a one dimensional version of Christ. <br /><br />Thats what I am trying to do - create a vision of the real Christ using the Bible, Gnostic texts and science to do so.Defender of Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093052197059748663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-3587217138471053552011-11-02T15:42:18.877-07:002011-11-02T15:42:18.877-07:00Jesus by blood was actually from God, Acts 20:28, ...Jesus by blood was actually from God, Acts 20:28, not any earthly lineage at all.<br /><br />Again, the scripture has to be produced that states that Mary was <i>"a daughter of Aaron"</i> like Elisabeth or <i>"a daughter of Levi"</i> like Jochebed.<br /><br />There isn't any.<br /><br />With extra-Biblical authorities, I would guess it's possible to counter the above but that then results in an impasse that I don't think can be resolved.<br /><br />It seems like it would be like a court of law that is simultaneously subject to more than one legal system, which I guess would result in impossibility.alanoreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12013953165470026155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-58777338097853559212011-11-02T15:34:02.956-07:002011-11-02T15:34:02.956-07:00See my previous comment, noting the use of the wor...See my previous comment, noting the use of the word <i>"tribe"</i> in the verse.alanoreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12013953165470026155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-26541063389708528252011-11-02T15:32:36.325-07:002011-11-02T15:32:36.325-07:00Again, I'd say that the scripture is explicit ...Again, I'd say that the scripture is explicit in these respects. Taking the New Testamant references, Juda can refer to:<br /><br /><i>"the land of Juda"</i> Matthew 2:6<br /><br /><i>"the brother...of Juda"</i> Mark 6:3<br /><br /><i>"a city of Juda"</i> Luke 1:39<br /><br /><i>"the son of Juda"</i> Luke 3:26, 30, 33<br /><br /><i>"the tribe of Juda"</i> Hebrews 7:14, even if expressed slightly differently, Revelation 5:5, 7:5.<br /><br />There's 5 different applications, where Juda can be a place, a person, or an extended family.<br /><br />However, the scripture is explicit in each respect.alanoreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12013953165470026155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-62349722747339640212011-11-02T15:30:09.551-07:002011-11-02T15:30:09.551-07:00Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, he was not f...Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, he was not from the tribe of Judah.<br /><br />Remember that Jesus's stepfather Jospeh was from the tribe of Judah, hence he could be called as coming from Judah via his being regarded as the adopted son of Joseph who was from the tribe of Judah.<br /><br />Yet that doesnt change the fact Mary was a Levite and jesus, by blood, wasnt from the tribe of Judah.Defender of Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093052197059748663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-51540851524931442902011-11-02T15:22:59.296-07:002011-11-02T15:22:59.296-07:00King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
For it is evide...King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)<br /> <br />For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.<br /><br />This interpretation suggests Jesus came from the region of Judah, not the tribe of Judah and the second statem,ent just a statement of fact about the people of the region.Defender of Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093052197059748663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-48553905245821613322011-11-02T15:19:28.585-07:002011-11-02T15:19:28.585-07:00Hi mate
check the link below
http://bible.cc/h...Hi mate <br /><br />check the link below <br /><br />http://bible.cc/hebrews/7-14.htm<br /><br />the hebrews 7 : 14 has many interpretations, some of which suggest that Jesus was not of the tribe of Judah, but that he came from the region of Judah.<br /><br />Judah doesnt refer to the tribe of Judah but the region of Judah.<br /><br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_JudahDefender of Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093052197059748663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-11178966587792842912011-11-02T14:30:19.669-07:002011-11-02T14:30:19.669-07:00Note also that Elisabeth*, John the Baptist's ...Note also that Elisabeth*, John the Baptist's mother, is said to be <i>"of the daughters of Aaron"</i> Luke 1:5 i.e. Levi via Aaron. For me, that confirms that had the same been true of Mary, the scripture would have mentioned it. It doesn't.<br /><br />*Mary and Elisabeth were cousins, Luke 1:36, which would only mean that Mary's father and Elizabeth's mother were brother and sister, since Mary is never called a daughter of Aaron or <i>"a daughter of Levi"</i> although Jochebed, the mother of Moses and Aaron is, Exodus 2:1, 6:20, yet Jochebed is relatively obscure compared to <i>"the mother of my Lord"</i> Luke 1:43. It comes back to the same thing i.e. if Mary was of Levi, it would have been mentioned but it isn't. <br /><br />That's where I'll have to leave it, mate. Some good points for study have emerged but it all hinges on finding a scripture that shows unequivocally that the Lord was <i>not</i> from Juda, even though Hebrews 7:14 says that he <i>was</i>, with no other ancestry mentioned.<br /><br />As you've indicated, such an alternative scripture - as scripture - cannot be found. Also as indicated, I'm not really in a position to take things further, therefore.alanoreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12013953165470026155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-8645294302401482582011-11-02T14:28:40.990-07:002011-11-02T14:28:40.990-07:00Again, interesting points, Lee
Having studied som...Again, interesting points, Lee<br /><br />Having studied some of the beliefs/teachings of Origen and some of the modern versions that you appear to have used, I wouldn't perceive them as being trustworthy sources by comparison with the 1611 Holy Bible that once guided this nation and guided it well.<br /><br />However, that's not the main issue.<br /><br />In that respect, it has to be remembered that the Lord said in Mark 4:9 <i>"And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."</i><br /><br />That was an open invitation to learn more, for any of His listeners.<br /><br />Nothing was withheld from anyone who wanted to know more. Then as now, most folk don't, sadly.<br /><br />So it can't really be said that the Lord was being secretive. As for mysteries in scripture, these gradually unfold as part of progressive revelation, which is how the Bible is set out. Again, there's nothing secretive.<br /><br />Concerning extra-canonical sources, Revelation 22:18 has a very severe warning, my emphases.<br /><br /><i>"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, <b>If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book</b>:"</i><br /><br />Some commentators limit that verse to the Book of Revelation, which is not correct because the verse is essentially saying don't add to scripture, as Proverbs 30:6 states:<br /><br /><i>"Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar."</i><br /><br />As for what are God's words, Psalm 12:6, 7 is a definite promise that God will preserve them, my emphases.<br /><br /><i>"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. <b>Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever</b>."</i><br /><br />The Lord Jesus Christ confirms in Matthew 24:35 that His words would not pass away.<br /><br />That shows that what we have now as scripture i.e. the 1611 Holy Bible, is God's words. What we don't have isn't, for that reason and therefore (for both those reasons) can't be elevated in authority on a par with scripture.<br /><br />(The same goes for certain extant writings such as the Old and New Testament Apocryphas, because these were never recognised as scripture by the apostolic church or later Bible believers such as the Waldenses etc.)<br /><br />On the subject of the Lord's ethnicity, again I have to appeal to scripture i.e. Matthew 1:5 that records two non-Jewesses way back in His human ancestry and surely therefore would have recorded any others had they existed.<br /><br />On the proposition that Mary was part-Levite, again, I have to appeal to scripture in that it is mentioned that Barnabus was a Levite, Acts 4:36. On that basis I suggest that had the same been true or even partly true for Mary, that would have been mentioned as well, given that Mary was obviously closer to Jesus than Barnabus during the Lord's earthly life - the tribe of Levi rates a mention because it was the priestly tribe but the reference to Barnabus shows that this distinction is done away with in the Church Age i.e. post-Calvary. <br /><br />End of Part 1, Part 2 to follow.alanoreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12013953165470026155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-85729955789624885172011-11-02T12:58:39.900-07:002011-11-02T12:58:39.900-07:00Hi mate,
There is no scripture as it was part of ...Hi mate,<br /><br />There is no scripture as it was part of the Gnostic secrets that were told only to the elect - you can only put the whole thing together if you read the Gnostic Gospecls and understand the true nature of Jesus as recorded outside the Bible ;<br /><br />The existence of a secret teaching can be found in the New Testament:<br /><br /> <br />The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that, 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding' (Mark 4:11-12)<br /> <br /> <br />"He replied, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance." (Matt. 13:11-12)<br /> <br /> <br />"We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began." (1 Cor. 2:6-8)<br /> <br /> <br />"So then, men ought to regard us as servants of Christ and as those entrusted with the secret things of God." (1 Cor. 4:1)<br /> <br /> <br />"At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and Earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure." (Matt. 11:25-26)<br /> Origen had this to say about the secret teachings of Jesus:<br /><br /> <br />[Jesus] conversed with His disciples in private, and especially in their sacred retreats, concerning the Gospel of God; but the words which He uttered have not been preserved, because it appeared to the evangelists that they could not be adequately conveyed to the multitude in writing or in speech and they saw what things were to be committed to writing, and how this was to be done, and what was by no means to be written to the multitude, and what was to be expressed in words, and what was not to be so conveyed. (Contra Celsus, Chap. VI. 18)<br /> <br /><br />Concerning these secret teachings, Clement stated:<br /><br /> <br />James the Righteous, John and Peter were entrusted by the Lord after his resurrection with the higher knowledge. They imparted it to the other apostles, to the seventy (Outlines Book VI)<br /> <br />The priests did not refute Jesus being a Jew, as by doing so they could not exercise jurisdiction over him and kill him.<br /><br />They could only condemn Jesus to death if they agreed he was a Jew, hence they stated that he was a Jew so as to kill him.<br /><br />The true teachings of Jesus were taught not to the crowds, but the most trusted of his dsciples.<br /><br />This is why the Gnostic gospels were repressed and destroyed.Defender of Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093052197059748663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-38998726998586092412011-11-02T12:41:23.611-07:002011-11-02T12:41:23.611-07:00Again, interesting arguments, Lee
I have to ackno...Again, interesting arguments, Lee<br /><br />I have to acknowledge that I'm not really in a position to comment on non-Biblical sources e.g. the Gnostic Gospels.<br /><br />I have never come across any source that goes against Mary's genealogy as given in Luke 3.<br /><br />Nor have I ever come across any scripture that even remotely hints at any Samaritan background in the Lord's lineage, even though a Canaanite (Rahab) and a Moabitess (Ruth) are mentioned, Matthew 1:5.<br /><br />If you can find a scripture that shows otherwise, then let's review it.<br /><br />The point about John 18:20 is that the chief priests themselves didn't try to contradict Him i.e. they accepted what He said as true and simply focussed on a matter of protocol, John 18:21. <br /><br />John 18:20 doesn't contradict with Mark 4:11, 12, in that the Lord simply taught openly in such a way that He could identify those who were genuinely interested i.e. those who came around afterwards to ask questions.<br /><br />The same happens today.<br /><br />Not sure there's much more I can add, unless you can identify the suggested scripture above.alanoreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12013953165470026155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-9818840597296896062011-11-02T12:33:47.891-07:002011-11-02T12:33:47.891-07:00Heres how to get your head around the Samaritan / ...Heres how to get your head around the Samaritan / Jewish issue.<br /><br />They were the Catholics / Protestants of their time.<br /><br />Both were Jewish as both the Protestants and Catholics were Christian, but they both despised each other, killed each other and neither side recgognised the other as Jewish.<br /><br />Now they do,<br /><br />Back then they didnt.<br /><br />In order to preach to the Jews, Jesus assumed his Jewish identity via his step father Joseph who was Jewish. <br /><br />But he also told the Samaritan woman the truth of his identity, but you needed to know how to decipher what he said.<br /><br />By saying The Father would not be worshipped in Jeruslam where the Jews worshipped or on the mountain where the Samaritans worshipped, he was confirming his real identity - for the Samaritan prophet ( not messiah) would sit in Shechem.<br /><br />This was how we know who he really was.Defender of Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093052197059748663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-77892191655090239172011-11-02T12:19:20.062-07:002011-11-02T12:19:20.062-07:00Hi mate,
Mary was from the Tribe of Levites, whic...Hi mate,<br /><br />Mary was from the Tribe of Levites, which she shared with the Samaritans.<br /><br />As a member of the House of Levil, it is entirely plausible she was a Samaritan.<br /><br />The Samaritans are Jewish, its just they were not regarded as Jewish by the Pharisees and non-Samaritan Jews at the time of Jesus.<br /><br />Thats why Jesus was a Jew, but not regarded as a Jew by the Jews.<br /><br />By the Jews, I mean the non-Samartians.<br /><br />Jesus was also a Jew as he was a Samartian, this si what you need to get your head around.<br /><br />The Samartians said the Jews that came back from Assyria were not true Jews, due to their religion. At the same time the Jews who came back from Assyria also said the Samaritans were not Jews due to their religion.<br /><br />In fact in they were both 'Jews' but neither regarded the other as Jews.<br /><br />Hence the confusion and violence between them.<br /><br />We know that John 18:20 quote is not entirely true as Jesus confirms in Mark 4 : 11-12<br /><br />[Jesus] told them, ' The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that, they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'" (Mark 4:11-12)<br /><br />In other words Jesus did not lie, but he hid his true teachings inside his parables and only explained them to the select few - hence the Gnostic Gospels.<br /><br />He taught two teachings - the parabales and the secret teachings inside the parables explained onlt to the elect amongst the disciples.<br /><br />I have stated above that Jesus like Paul had dual Jewish membership - a Samaritan via his mother a Jew via his step father - he was both at the same time.<br /><br />Like his parables Jesus had two identities - hence why the parabales had two meanings as well - he had his Jewish public identity that allowed ghim to preach and get disciples and to the ones he trusted he gave the true meanings of his parables.<br /><br />He did this as the Jews kept trying to kill him.<br /><br />It was to protec himself, protect the didsciples and to allow him to preach to the Jews - but only the inner core of the most trusted disciples knew the truth of his teachings and identity.Defender of Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093052197059748663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-53520776965808469032011-11-02T11:35:20.387-07:002011-11-02T11:35:20.387-07:00Again, an interesting theory, Lee
However, the li...Again, an interesting theory, Lee<br /><br />However, the lineage of Mary is given in Luke 3. She too is Jewish, from Solomon's brother, Nathan, Luke 3:31.<br /><br />Also, although the Lord sought to prevent premature revelation of His identity, Mark 1:44, 45, He would never have created a false impression about His racial background with anyone, either the Samaritan woman or His disciples. Note John 18:20.<br /><br /><i>"Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing."</i><br /><br />In other words, the Lord was Who He said He was.<br /><br />Note that in the above context, Jesus is speaking under oath, as you'll note from the legal term used in Matthew 26:63.<br /><br /><i>"But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God."</i><br /><br />The astute Pontius Pilate also knew Jesus' racial identity. No Samaritan masquerading as a Jew could have deceived him, my emphases.<br /><br /><i>"Pilate answered, Am I a Jew? <b>Thine own nation</b> and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me: what hast thou done?"</i>alanoreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12013953165470026155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-41545180114739557532011-11-02T11:10:09.250-07:002011-11-02T11:10:09.250-07:00Hi mate,
The woman in John 4 : 9 doesnt know that...Hi mate,<br /><br />The woman in John 4 : 9 doesnt know that Jesus is a Samaritan, he kept this quiet as the Jews kept trying to kill him.<br /><br />He was a Jew the same way Paul was a Roman, for Jesus was raised as a Jew by his step father Joseph.<br /><br />But he knew his mother was a Samaritan as a Levite.<br /><br />To the woman and his disciples he was a Jew, but he knew he was a Jew only via his step father - he was raised a Jew but knew he was a Samaritan via his mothers lineage.<br /><br />Hence he does not care that he is helping or consorting with a Samaritan, as he himself was a Samaritan.<br /><br />He was only RAISED as a Jew, for his real father was God and his mother a Samaritan.<br /><br />Like Paul, who was a Jew and a Roman, Jesus was both Samaritan and Jew - hence why he tried to fuse the two religions into one.Defender of Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093052197059748663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-60347795526840599162011-11-02T10:59:58.925-07:002011-11-02T10:59:58.925-07:00Thanks, Lee
I'm somewhat preoccupied with oth...Thanks, Lee<br /><br />I'm somewhat preoccupied with other projects atm but it would be interesting to follow up at some point.<br /><br />I wouldn't think I was an expert, though I do read up on the subject quite a bit.<br /><br />The episode of the woman at the well is, I think, answered in John 4:24:<br /><br /><i>"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."</i><br /><br />The Lord is talking about a different kind of worship, not centred on any place e.g. the temple but within the individual, which is germane to Christian belief, as St Paul emphasised later in 1 Corinthians 3:16.<br /><br /><i>"Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?"</i><br /><br />That's actually the litmus test, so to speak, for a New Testament Christian. Intrinsically, it has nothing to do with doing good, being a good person or church attendance, although these things should follow.<br /><br />That's where there's a lot of confusion these days, though.<br /><br />Note also the woman's statement in John 4:9 that identifies the Lord's race, which the Lord does not contradict.<br /><br /><i>"Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans."</i>alanoreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12013953165470026155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-38919637388630756192011-11-02T10:34:21.790-07:002011-11-02T10:34:21.790-07:00Hi mate,
thanks for the points - I have been want...Hi mate,<br /><br />thanks for the points - I have been wanting you to respond so we can work together on this, you being the expert on the texts.<br /><br />The lion point is interesting - a lion symbolism isnt always a good thing, it may be that the lion of Judah, represents a lion AGAINST Judah, not for Judah.<br /><br />The lion of Judah may be a threat to the 'lost sheep of Israel' as Jesus being the lion will consume the lamb - Jews - the lion and the lamb symbolism as a predator / prey relationship as opposed to the later lion and the lamb laying down together eg coming under the jurisdiction of Jesus and him ending the war between the samaritans and the Jews. The lion = Samaritan Jesus and the Lamb = the Jews. <br /><br />I think the strongest point of all is the Shechem issue where Jesus says he will not worship like the Samaritans on the mountain or like the Jews in Jeruslaem - so where will he worship. The clue is that he is talking to a Samaritan woman - and the answer is Shechem, the ancient seat of power.<br /><br />Jesus was not the Jewish messiah, he was the Samaritan messiah.<br /><br />The Jews knew this and thats why they crucified him - as they feared him becoming the uniter of the Jews / Samaritans under Jesus Judaism or Christianity as we call it.<br /><br />Interesting point re multi-culturalism and the Smaritans.<br /><br />Let me know what other ideas you have.Defender of Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093052197059748663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-62570765907774814482011-11-02T10:17:07.319-07:002011-11-02T10:17:07.319-07:00Interesting theory, Lee
Just a couple of points a...Interesting theory, Lee<br /><br />Just a couple of points as I'm not in a position to read it all in detail as yet.<br /><br />In John 3:28 it is John the Baptist speaking, not Jesus.<br /><br />Hebrews 7:14 states, my emphases <i>"For it is evident that <b>our Lord sprang out of Juda;</b> of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood."</i><br /><br />Matthew 1 is also explicit that the Lord came from the tribe of Judah. That is why He is called <i>"the Lion of the tribe of Juda"</i> in Revelation 5:5.<br /><br />The Samaritans are important as a people because they show the end results of the kind of multi-racialism that is now being forced on this country by emigration/immigration.<br /><br />It's all set out in 2 Kings 17, after the 10 northern tribes had been taken into captivity by Assyria in about 740 BC.<br /><br />It's amazing that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritan" rel="nofollow">the Samaritans</a> have lasted so long but their total population now is less than 1,000. It may be that God has preserved them as a remnant to show that no strong nation can be founded on multi-racialism.<br /><br />Got something else that is of interest constitutionally. I'll forward it separately.alanoreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12013953165470026155noreply@blogger.com