tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post8636446314147931871..comments2023-11-05T00:38:56.097-07:00Comments on 21st Century British Nationalism: Time For A New Party ?Defender of Libertyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16093052197059748663noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-34949052415573568582010-08-30T11:33:39.792-07:002010-08-30T11:33:39.792-07:00Lee,
Now we are on the subject, what is a real Na...Lee,<br /><br />Now we are on the subject, what is a real Nazi and what is a real Racist ??<br /><br />Is that an easy one for you to answer, because I am now a bit confused ;o)<br /><br />Textanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15606904841488618945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-37309703832484504972010-08-25T17:04:20.917-07:002010-08-25T17:04:20.917-07:00In my opinion, attempting to create a 'new'...In my opinion, attempting to create a 'new' party instead of trying to reconcile and galvanise all already established nationalist parties including the NF, is a total waste of time and precious energy all round. <br /><br />It is also a suicidal notion in view of the urgency for the necessity of restorative political action within an ever-decreasing time frame, in an effort to avoid total ethnic annihilation of all indigenous Britons <br /><br />If we are to remain distinct ethnicities, <b>we</b> must be the sole retainers of what are <b>our</b> individual nationalities and cultures since going by your idea that alien ethnicities would be compelled to adopt either the English, Irish, Scots, Welsh and/or British cultures and language(s) according to what part of the British Isles these aliens are domicile, would inevitably have the effect of diluting and eventually dissolving completely these natural rightful identities in relation to indigenous Britons themselves. It would further have the effect of strengthening perhaps inadvertently, increased miscegenation behaviour leading to the eventual physical extinction of the indigenous Britons as well, all of which is what we are supposed to be dilligently striving to prevent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-12282916822094616442010-08-25T14:41:35.543-07:002010-08-25T14:41:35.543-07:00Of course there are Nazis in the BNP - I have met ...Of course there are Nazis in the BNP - I have met them.<br /><br />Lets not pretend and play silly games about it, just denying it in denial of the vast amount of evidence accumulated by groups like Searchlight over the years is simply stupid.<br /><br />We deny it, but we know its true.<br /><br />Searchlight doesnt lie, we do. <br /><br />They publish the evidence, the photgraphs - we hear the same things, we see the same things.<br /><br />We just dent it, as to admit causes the BNP political damage.<br /><br />But the worst thing about denying is that the public know we are lying.<br /><br />Thats why they dont trust the BNP.<br /><br />Rather than us be honest, admit it and deal with the programme we try and lie to them, and simply look stupid and untrustworthy.<br /><br />Thats why there has to be a real rebrand, not just a cosmetic one.<br /><br />The Nazis and racists must leave the party, as they are destroying the parties credibility with the masses.<br /><br />If they wont leave, then a new party that is required.<br /><br />They can have the BNP, and keep it as a party for racists and nazis.<br /><br />We will start a new one, that is lumbered with such baggage - and that will be a party the public can trust and vote for.<br /><br />They are the choices.<br /><br />Either they go with Griffin or we go and form a new party.<br /><br />The BNP is fisnished unless it removed Griffin and dowson from power, undergoes a fundamental rebrand, undergoes ideological reformation, gets a new constitution and new leadership model.<br /><br />No more pissing about anymore - we have our country, culture and people to save.Defender of Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093052197059748663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-16578320682484550602010-08-25T14:16:11.123-07:002010-08-25T14:16:11.123-07:00Seriously, how many times a day do you see Nazi...Seriously, how many times a day do you see Nazi's on the TV and the radio; its fkn unbelievable !<br /><br />You and I know, its subversion they use it for, nothing else..<br /><br />Even through a blockbuster about a year ago, "WHAM" ;out of the blue, all of a sudden in the middle of the film, was a Nazi flick, I thought "WTH", I dont think people even noticed because they are subject to it all the time.<br /><br />Lets be honest, there are no more Nazi's in the BNP than there realy is anywhere else on this Planet; their gone. Unless you are a red, and would like to use the speal to bring ur enemies down.<br /><br />I love my own people, warts an all, I prefer my own culture, my own Race, colour and religion. If that makes me a Nazi, that is surely what I am and what I will always be!!<br /><br />Just thought I would mention- I hate the Authorities, I fkn hate them so much, I feel that somehow I have become infected with it, I am now "AUTHORITY POSITIVE" , I havent had any tests, but I know the antibodies are present.I have BEEN VIOLATED, I have evil running through my veins and its desperate to get out,as millions of other people.<br /><br />We need fkn action .<br />Everyone need's to stop this unproductive infighting ALL OF YOU, befour it ruins us all.<br /><br />Textanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15606904841488618945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-63981021756553306492010-08-25T10:56:12.622-07:002010-08-25T10:56:12.622-07:00I agree with you that the 'BNP' is effecti...I agree with you that the 'BNP' is effectively finished and that a new party needs to emerge to carry the torch of Nationalism forward.<br />Your idea of expressing it as 'Cultural Nationalism' is very good indeed and an excellent antidote to 'Cultural Marxism', the ideology that has prevailed for the last fifty years or so, as it has engaged in its long march through all the institutions of state and society in our benighted country. The ideas you have expressed in this article Lee, deal very well with the issues around immigration, race, ethnicity, nationality and thus 'identity'.<br />I do think that any new movement must also position itself very firmly as part of the wider 'anti-globalist/New World order' movement - in fact, endeavour to place itself in the vanguard of that movement in Britain. We must oppose the corrupt banking system and insist upon the proper nationalisation of the essentially private Bank of England, because without that there is no sovereignty of parliament. The banksters control the current puppet politicians of Lib/Lab/Con who carry out their agenda. As part of this it must, of necessity, be an anti-Zionist party (NOT anti-Jewish!). The Griffin/BNP policy has been a complete incoherent fudge on this matter due to the aforementioned's fear of being labelled as anti-semitic and holocaust-denying etc. As regards other issues, I would tend to a more 'libertarian' stance rather than the usual right-wingery of previous nationalist parties. I think we need a slogan like 'Set the people free' as a rallying cry against big government and over-bearing state interference in peoples lives. Finally, regarding a name for our new party, we would probably do well to avoid names that are overtly nationalistic like National this... or British that...<br />Adrian Davies' 'Freedom Party' name could possibly be revived or tweaked a bit??? So there are a few thoughts on the cause! There will be those who will think some of these ideas are heretical in some way, but we have to be prepared to think 'out of the box' as it were. This time we have to get it right as time is not something we have the luxury of if we are going to try and save our country.<br /><br />Dave MoonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-51038275304059453792010-08-25T08:41:14.118-07:002010-08-25T08:41:14.118-07:00The sad fact is mate, that the Nazi stuff is still...The sad fact is mate, that the Nazi stuff is still prevalent in sections of the Griffin BNP.<br /><br />Just as there are still Communists after the Cold War ended, there are still National Socialists after the end of the Third Reich.<br /><br />What group anyone wants to join is down to them, just as Communists have every right to form their own political groups, and I do not say to people ' you cannot believe this and you cannot believe that' - what they believe is up to them.<br /><br />But the place for Nazis is in Nazi groups, not in the BNP.<br /><br />Thats the issue - that by allowing Nazis in the BNP this merely gives the media the ammunition to attack us.<br /><br />Besides that all the media need to do to discredit us is to put people in the parties who play at being Nazis - and that provides the media with the ammunition to call the party Nazi.<br /><br />If the true Nazis want to join a Nazi group, then good for them as they have evry right to do so - same the Reds and Communists do - but dont join the BNP.<br /><br />Form your own group.Defender of Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093052197059748663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-81765946012606613492010-08-25T08:41:12.235-07:002010-08-25T08:41:12.235-07:00The sad fact is mate, that the Nazi stuff is still...The sad fact is mate, that the Nazi stuff is still prevalent in sections of the Griffin BNP.<br /><br />Just as there are still Communists after the Cold War ended, there are still National Socialists after the end of the Third Reich.<br /><br />What group anyone wants to join is down to them, just as Communists have every right to form their own political groups, and I do not say to people ' you cannot believe this and you cannot believe that' - what they believe is up to them.<br /><br />But the place for Nazis is in Nazi groups, not in the BNP.<br /><br />Thats the issue - that by allowing Nazis in the BNP this merely gives the media the ammunition to attack us.<br /><br />Besides that all the media need to do to discredit us is to put people in the parties who play at being Nazis - and that provides the media with the ammunition to call the party Nazi.<br /><br />If the true Nazis want to join a Nazi group, then good for them as they have evry right to do so - same the Reds and Communists do - but dont join the BNP.<br /><br />Form your own group.Defender of Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093052197059748663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-87971258406804033122010-08-25T08:41:10.444-07:002010-08-25T08:41:10.444-07:00The sad fact is mate, that the Nazi stuff is still...The sad fact is mate, that the Nazi stuff is still prevalent in sections of the Griffin BNP.<br /><br />Just as there are still Communists after the Cold War ended, there are still National Socialists after the end of the Third Reich.<br /><br />What group anyone wants to join is down to them, just as Communists have every right to form their own political groups, and I do not say to people ' you cannot believe this and you cannot believe that' - what they believe is up to them.<br /><br />But the place for Nazis is in Nazi groups, not in the BNP.<br /><br />Thats the issue - that by allowing Nazis in the BNP this merely gives the media the ammunition to attack us.<br /><br />Besides that all the media need to do to discredit us is to put people in the parties who play at being Nazis - and that provides the media with the ammunition to call the party Nazi.<br /><br />If the true Nazis want to join a Nazi group, then good for them as they have evry right to do so - same the Reds and Communists do - but dont join the BNP.<br /><br />Form your own group.Defender of Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093052197059748663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-67150960266591022592010-08-25T03:17:57.955-07:002010-08-25T03:17:57.955-07:00Lee,enough of the "nazi" stuff already.
...Lee,enough of the "nazi" stuff already.<br />All that was wound up 60 years ago. Its a stick for the enemy to beat us with, no more than that.<br />Attack the enemy, not our own people.<br />You made a good start in the reform group.<br />Don't screw it up.The Sentinelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-79257806595292494282010-08-25T02:44:57.700-07:002010-08-25T02:44:57.700-07:00It isn't propaganda that is the issue, the bat...It isn't propaganda that is the issue, the battle the marxists have won is establishing cultural hegemony. The Marxist ideology is now completely dominant in society, with people brainwashed by it in all levels of society: education, media, judiciary, the political process, even the Christian religion has been infiltrated by marxists. There is no democracy at all, and those who hold power will not give it up lightly.<br /><br />The challenge is to make our ideology more popular in society but as we do not control any of the institutions mentioned above, we have to do it by civil disobedience. There is no other way apart from exodus to another land, e.g. a white state of the US, the Western cape of South Africa.<br /><br />There is also the issue of demographics which is seeing the white race catastrohically failing to replace itself. We are in very serious trouble and we have very little time to act. This is not a political game it is war.<br /><br />Chris.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-75719126456699808102010-08-25T02:15:03.749-07:002010-08-25T02:15:03.749-07:00Keep taking the tablets fucking weirdo NEW PARTY L...Keep taking the tablets fucking weirdo NEW PARTY LOL how long will you the Butt perv and the other freaks last . Yer dont have the bolloxs for it wee man keep on dreaming .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-61685706262712098932010-08-24T23:56:47.075-07:002010-08-24T23:56:47.075-07:00Thanks for the comments guys,
some good points,
...Thanks for the comments guys,<br /><br />some good points,<br /><br />keep e coming<br /><br />re ideology and propaganda - the basis of propaganda is ideology, for without an ideology that can be sold to the masses the propaganda will not work.<br /><br />Its a bit like a Nazi party with the image of being a Nazi Party that is racist trying to pretend its an ethno-nationalist party - the facts and ideology destroy the propaganda every time.<br /><br />People know bullshit when they see it. <br /><br />Re mass activism - thats right we do need that as the party is the tip of the spear propelled by the movement - but unless the party is one that people will vote for then the mass street movement is irrelevant.<br /><br />T - like all true nationalists you can recognise the great idea and then become loyal to it, as the great idea is what gets us into power - not loyalty to yesterdays man and yesterdays failed ideologies.<br /><br />The future beckons, lets us seize it together.Defender of Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093052197059748663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-27439510424280166152010-08-24T19:08:50.054-07:002010-08-24T19:08:50.054-07:00Adrian is 100% right it has f*ck all to do with id...Adrian is 100% right it has f*ck all to do with ideology or presentation and everything to do with propaganda, tyndal also knew this and knew by playing by their rules you will simply be emasculated tto the point where you become pointless and offer no alternative and even when you morth into what appears to be mainstreme you will still be hated by the media as you are not owned by the elites that own the media.<br /><br />to keep trimming at the edges as you do Lee while now also sniping you are castrating the only option we have both ideologicall and practiacally.<br /><br />a mass activist movement should have continued like the NF tried, if it leads to confrontation with the left then so be it, seeing as the country is commiting mass genocide and all we do here is bitch about what shirt we have and who is too right wing for the media. we played by the rules trying to please the masters and as we crawled and twisted ourself out of all recognition we have been trod upon like a pathetic bug.<br /><br />appeasement just means they will eat you last as winson churchill said, and now they are eating us and you are helping them with your sniping and continued appeasment.<br /><br />get a grip Lee,<br /><br />we need to concentrait on activism - effective protests, mass enrolement(cheap as chips membership) heavy propaganda and saying it as it is, not weasle words, another decade of weasle words and we will be gone forever.<br /><br />We have 5 years left - that is it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-59165532102421210082010-08-24T15:18:09.358-07:002010-08-24T15:18:09.358-07:00Lee, its easy , forget about everything u know abo...Lee, its easy , forget about everything u know about politics and think and act like a Fox.<br /><br />\dont ever refer to the way any political movement will get elected, think how people think when they are upset , grab their attention when they are angry, motovate them through passion and a wide excepted view that you speak of.<br /><br />Every problem you invisage, immediately look for the cure to that problem, the good side of it,not the bad side of it..<br /><br />Every mans gain, is always another mans pain, in all aspects of life. It what drives the economy and everyones life.<br />eg, the food chain<br />The drop of the housing market, makes lots of million airs etc.<br /><br />I know how to do it, but we must first save the BNP and drive it to success if that is possible.<br /><br />limited ;o)extanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05789449475881701846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-28764706437489464892010-08-24T14:57:23.039-07:002010-08-24T14:57:23.039-07:00Thank you Lee,
Its called "real" Nation...Thank you Lee, <br />Its called "real" Nationalist loyalty mate, no one can buy it,sell it or make it.<br /><br />To the death we will stand and united we will conquer!<br /><br />Textanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05789449475881701846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-33415962495494834292010-08-24T14:30:00.447-07:002010-08-24T14:30:00.447-07:00There already is a civil nationalist party in the ...There already is a civil nationalist party in the UK ; it is called UKIP. It is wheeled out at election time to defeat a resurgent BNP and then quietly put back in the box by the media when it is not wanted. If your idea is to create another splinter party well you might get a fair wind from searchlight and the media but like Wilders, get too big and they will turn all their guns on you as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-45623066275774777132010-08-24T13:31:25.142-07:002010-08-24T13:31:25.142-07:00At least you wont have to worry about Violent crim...At least you wont have to worry about Violent crime, that's all under control.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7402232/Full-scale-of-violent-crime-revealed.html" rel="nofollow">Violent Crime Stats in the news</a><br /><br />It's a toss up between Gordon Brown who claims it's falling and Cameron who claims its rising.<br /><br />I don't know Which lying cunt to believe.Adrian Peirsonhttp://harveyalexander.weebly.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-86915965480872711212010-08-24T12:45:41.515-07:002010-08-24T12:45:41.515-07:00Time is running out.
EU Arrest Warrants Increase
...Time is running out.<br /><br /><a href="http://charonqc.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/law-review-surge-in-britons-exported-for-trial/#comment-27075" rel="nofollow">EU Arrest Warrants Increase</a><br /><br />When are our Generals going to speak up on this.Adrian Peirsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-12221988003976819552010-08-24T12:18:10.957-07:002010-08-24T12:18:10.957-07:00extant,
We need a Palin to speak for us in Britain...extant,<br />We need a Palin to speak for us in Britain.<br /><br />Her diddies speak to me just fine.<br /><br />Yesiree!Rijkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-11922131562456970932010-08-24T12:08:46.710-07:002010-08-24T12:08:46.710-07:00Thanks mate,
The past is the past as far I am con...Thanks mate,<br /><br />The past is the past as far I am concerned, the time is for us to now look to the future - and create a new party that will save our people.<br /><br />If we cant save the BNP, wrest it from Griffin and Dowson then I hope you will join whatever new party may be set up.<br /><br />We need to put the past behind us and move on united.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Lee <br /><br />Thanks chris and T - you know you can take it mate, you are an adaptable nationalist warrior - you will evolve and conquer !<br /><br />The independent nationalist idea is a good one - the issue is how do we co-ordinate the movement though ?Defender of Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093052197059748663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-70092596036477997152010-08-24T11:30:41.362-07:002010-08-24T11:30:41.362-07:00Rijker,
Oh Baby, I want a Plain one damn bad :O) ...Rijker,<br /><br />Oh Baby, I want a Plain one damn bad :O) :O)extanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05789449475881701846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-12303235175163976092010-08-24T11:25:00.575-07:002010-08-24T11:25:00.575-07:00Lee I hardly used to visit your blog, and as a Go...Lee I hardly used to visit your blog, and as a Good friend of some of the so called rebels from 1997 you were seen as on the Side of griffin and the destruction of the BNP. <br />But I have found out in life the real mettle of a man is someone who has the guts to speak out when they realised they made a mistake. We all make mistakes, but most prefer to keep quiet, rather than to admit this. You have gone up in my estimation 10 fold, and the above article, is quite simply in my mind the best article you have ever written. <br />And would produce a party that was vote-able, and even more tantalising a party that would leave the far left and Marxist media with little or no ammunition from which to fire at us. Also it would by the very ethos of the party draw a big line in the sand. Cross it and be British, don’t and we will see you for all you are, which would be as a traitor or colonist, as is the current Islamic invasion. <br />Your vision, is a simple one, but one that will work, and down the linear of time, the most revolutionary and world changing ides have been the simple ones. Your policies are ones the British people are crying out for. <br /><br />A Fantastic post that should be circulated, to a wider audience. And hopefully acted upon by everyone who really wishes to save this nation for our children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-16280048446148781592010-08-24T10:18:42.189-07:002010-08-24T10:18:42.189-07:00Two sugars it is then ....
http://conservativecan...Two sugars it is then ....<br /><br />http://conservativecancer.com/sarah_palin_5.jpg<br /><br />Sweet enough? ;-)Rijkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-3422788817016410112010-08-24T10:17:40.054-07:002010-08-24T10:17:40.054-07:00Ps, I dont take sugar at all, im fkn sweat enough ...Ps, I dont take sugar at all, im fkn sweat enough !<br /><br />Anyone with half a brain,(I wont hold my breath) would realise that what you are proposing would be a beaken of light to the electorate and would now see your views/plans as not just revolutionary but dangerous to any other national movement..<br />Careful you have it very close, but you need a real team !!<br /><br />However brilliant is your plan, what about me, I just started to come out of the closet, as a slightly Liberal, homosexual tolerant, God fearing Nazi and you bring all this fkn shit on me :O)<br /><br />I can now hear Eva clicking her heals in the 21st Century already,(get me the fuck out of here) there's no place like Home, there's no place like Home ;o)<br /><br />Textanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05789449475881701846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5680771968888528726.post-29316384585867317132010-08-24T10:07:17.615-07:002010-08-24T10:07:17.615-07:00All praiseworthy Lee and I agree with you but as w...All praiseworthy Lee and I agree with you but as we now live in a Marxist state, there is no democracy. The ballot box is no solution, cultural marxism is the dominant ideology spoon-fed to people at all levels of society from cradle to grave. Marxists are not democratic, the only vote is for more Marxism and I believe pursuing the political process is now a dead end.<br /><br />A British Civil Rights Movement is desperately needed, pursuing much more vigorous action than just political power. Power does not concede willingly, history teaches us that and as much as I hate it, the Marxists have full control of the West and they will not lose it through the ballot box, no way.<br /><br />We now have to fight for our nation or we're finished. <br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />Chris.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com