The picture above of Griffin tells you all you need to know why the BNP will NEVER be anything other than a tiny fringe party in British politics under his 'leadership'.
He looks like a cross between Tweedledum and a badly assembled shop dummy.
The campaign the BNP undertook at the weekend is truly shameful.
No decent political party should try and capitalise economically from the war in Afghanistan.
The literature and forms signed by people at these 'events' are nothing more than disgusting attempts to bolster the BNP money making scams.
A decent leader of a decent political party would never have authorised a campaign and campaign literature that seeks to make new memberships and fund raising an issue in relation to the campaign.
I looked at the pictures of the people at the various table top sales, and frankly I felt sick.
These are good people being used for a disgusting cause which is simply to raise money to keep Dowson rich and Griffin in his position as BNP dictator.
The time, effort and activities of those members are being exploited by Griffin and Dowson for their own greed.
The first thing that a decent leader of a decent political party would have demanded is that not a single leaflet, not a single petition form or any literature of any kind feature anything to do with fundraising and membership contact details.
These signatures collected will not be sent to the government, and even if they were they would be ignored, as they will be used for just one reason - to fill the BNP computer databse with new names, addresses and e mails to send their pathetic begging letters too.
All the signatures will be sent to Jim Dowson and the Belfast Bunker so the information on names, addresses and e mails can be extracted from them.
THEN THEY WILL EITHER GO IN THE BIN OR SENT OFF SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY WILL THEN BE DUMPED IN THE BIN.
I bet you that within a fortnight or so the people who signed the petitions will start to receive the first of endless pathetic, badly drafted begging letters written by either Dowson or Golding.
This will be just the first of an avalanche of such e mails they will then get from the Begging Bunker in Belfast.
This campaign is a shameful and disgusting attempt simply to make money out of our war dead and wounded soldiers.
The BNP signatures will achieve nothing to stop the war - they are just being used as an pretext to collect information from the public to raise money for Dowson and Griffin - hence the disclaimer on the forms that allows the BNP to contact those people for fund raising purposes.
I am glad I am no longer a part of the sick cabal of crooks and immoral vultures that infest the senior ranks of the BNP, for Griffin and Dowson are shameful and vile opportunists simply out to make as much money as possible for themselves.
Lee while I share some of your concerns on this I feel that trying to recrute people and raise funds are a critical matter for a rising party, perhaps slightly underhand but at the same time potentially effective in the long term.
ReplyDeleteas long as they do not get bombarded with begging letters, constant begging letters other than at election times are counter productive, if people want to donate they will and begging letters soon lose their appeal and damage the party in the long run as it makes it look like the party is constantly about to implode.
However at this time this drive is a good idea, as explained by Nick in one of his recent interviews.
it gets us a good image, good activism, new members and funds.
It is what we should be doing, especially being seen, no one forced these people to give their details and no one will force anything from these people, but I hope their wa an upfront claim that they could be contacted by the party otherwise this could lead to personal problems for some people and alienate them.
still all in all a good effort by the BNP.
Next step should be to expose the NWO and the whole money lending scam, even giving out free DVDs to the public while asking for a small donation, such as the money masters, this could effectively wake the people up and is not from a BNP perspective.
other than the provisos i mentioned I think your over reaction is rather negative and deliberately looks at the many positives that could result from this.
It is could a recrutement drive, without people you have nothing and people approaching the BNP are as good as any, they have the right to decline any further approaches.
Sorry, but this scam is just a money making scam.
ReplyDeleteThe BNP is supposed to be a moral party, and making money out of the anti-war cause is vulgar, immoral and crass.
Especially as the media, left and opponents of the BNP will all attack the BNP for doing it.
On certain issues, such as this, that relate to dead British soldiers and wounded victims of the war - YOU DO NOT MAKE MONEY FROM IT.
This should not have been used to make money, it is a sacred cause and has become tainted by the pigs in the BNP who thought this would make them money.
They are scum for doing this - find another fucking campaign and raise funds.
That is a very poor turnout in the picture compared to what the black country could once muster up on the streets.You have griffin and the west midlands regional organiser who was once a labour supporter and canvasser ! Struth glad i left the outfit its just now full of the living dead and zombie creeping flesh eaters who havent got the sense to work out that all they are doing is a voluntary duty to line griffins pockets with silver.
ReplyDeleteSomeone ought to be campaigning to bring the troops home, so far, only NG has mentioned it's about the oil pipeline.
ReplyDeleteAnd if I recall the BNP have always been against these wars, so it's hardly hypocritical.
The public will just accept the situation if no one brings the matter to their attention.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteStruth glad i left the outfit its just now full of the living dead and zombie creeping flesh eaters who havent got the sense to work out that all they are doing is a voluntary duty to line griffins pockets with silver.
26 September 2010 10:42
Thing is they are doing something postive and active, you are sittng on your arse trying to wreck the party to bring griffin down as you claim he is wrecking the party, oh the irony!
Thing is what you have on Griffin is very little worth a crap in the nationalist sceme of things which is why in the leadership challenge you flopped, and rather than trying to gain further support you do all you can to undermine the cause! If Grifin was as bad as you claim he is then you could have been in a strong position to take over in a year or so, as it stands, no one will touch you malecontents with a very long barge pole and rightly so, not because you may be right or wrong about Griffin but how you went about it.
If this is your organisation and motivation skills then compared to Griffin you are something he stepped in as even if he were doing his utmost to destroy the party he could not compete with a buch of moronic halfwitts who claim to be the real future of the BNP.
Butler was an egotistcal fool, followed by a bunch of people with anbition and personal issues, no one of any real quality stood up, where were the speaches from Bowden outlinging the bright new future and the method to achieve it?
where was the vision?
All we heard was get rid of Dowson an all will be dandy and some shady nonsence backed up by less than thin air!
We heard the same cries about Collect years ago and now it appears he is on your team! along with someone who did everything in their power to wreck the main site duribng an election.
do you people have a brain cell between you?
Lee is a very bright man but is so irratic and blows hot and cold every three seconds that his direction would be chaos and often infantile.
Griffin might be all the things you say he is but if you lot are the alternative then we really are screwed!
"Defender of Liberty said...
ReplyDeleteSorry, but this scam is just a money making scam."
IN part yes I agree in that it is designed to raise money, though scam is too strong a word and no one is being decieved, we do support bringing our troops home and a way of showing your support WOULD be to donate to a party that could do so and as stated all parties need funds we cant survive on fresh air - no real issue here.
"The BNP is supposed to be a moral party, and making money out of the anti-war cause is vulgar, immoral and crass."
Crass? no, immoral? no for the reasons i have stated, vulgar?
"Especially as the media, left and opponents of the BNP will all attack the BNP for doing it."
they would attack the BNP if they gave out wheelchairs for the disabled! as for this angle, perhaps they might try now you are overstating the issue raising another red flag for them!
If so it would not make any difference, again for the reasons i have stated, if you want the troops home then you need to support the BNP not just sign a piece of bloody paper as you well know it will be ignored, but any resulting growth of the BNP would not! - starting to get the picture yet?
"On certain issues, such as this, that relate to dead British soldiers and wounded victims of the war - YOU DO NOT MAKE MONEY FROM IT."
What about white victims of race attacks? or any other cause we back in order to gain support, support and funds in order to do something abourt it, a party with no members and no funds and no presence is going to help who exactly?
"This should not have been used to make money, it is a sacred cause and has become tainted by the pigs in the BNP who thought this would make them money.
They are scum for doing this - find another fucking campaign and raise funds.
26 September 2010 09:29"
again Lee you are over stating the situation getting on the high horse while ignoring the reality, the BNP should use every single cause it backs to generate money and members in order to do something about it, you could pick a negative in any financial drive backed by a cause, what will get us donations awareness and power - a litter picking campaign?
Wake up Lee you are blinded by the bloody nose griffin gave you, and to some degree it seems you asked for it.
There are better ways of going about things from both sides but lets get of our high horse living in fantasy land where members and support just majic out of thin air.
Attack the BNP for wasting money, paying people too much, not giving enough of the fat EU salery back to the party(one of the few things that contains some evidence depending on your viewpoint - something which you have still not commented upon!) rather than this constant negativity, If Nick came up with the greatest nationalist plan ever made that could say the country within 2 years for certain, you would say it was crap along with your band of malecontents just because it came from Griffin.
Yesd we need to keep a close eye on the dowson situation and the begging letters and the methods but this post Lee is about the only crass thing I see!
So either find some billionairs that want to bankroll the party and its causes such as bringing the boys home or give it a rest!
Adrian Peirson,
ReplyDeleteAnother great post and to the point, rather than my lomg winded approach.
Adrian, people like you are the real future of the BNP.
The latest Organisers Bulletin makes it clear that people signing the petition will not be sent begging letters but will be contacted/sent party literature .
ReplyDeleteOf course after further contact they may well be sent begging letters but thats another matter .
The real point is that this is not a petition , it can only be so if an authority or ruler is presented with it , and that wont happen .
Of course anyone a bit smart would have carried out this campaign with a parallel petition recording minimum data to present to Her Majesty, thus vindicating the campaign , but then as a former SRO they did not invite my input .