Friday, 20 June 2008

UFO - National Security Threat

In the last few months a succesion of alarming incidents have occurred across the world. These events all relate to unexplained events involving UFO's.

The first concerns reports of an unidentified flying object exploding over Vietnam on May 27th 2008 and showering an island with wreckage which has been retrieved by the Vietnamese government and which is now being analysed.

The Vietnam News Agency said residents of Phu Quoc island, six miles off the coast of the Cambodian province of Kampot, found shards of grey metal, including one 1.5metres long after hearing an UFO explode in the sky.

No commercial or military planes are reported to be missing.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080528/od_nm/vietnam_ufo_dc_2

http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSBKK8882920080528?feedType=nl&feedName=usoddlyenough


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1216231.ece


Then in BUCHAREST, Romania, on June 6th The Romanian Defense Ministry confirmed that a fighter plane was struck by four unidentified flying objects and released a video of the incident.

The ministry said the MIG 21 Lancer fighter plane was struck by the objects during an Oct. 31, 2007, check flight but was able to land safely, film of UFO incident captured by the aircraft has been sent on to the Security Committee of European Air Forces for investigation.

The recording shows solid bodies, which authorities are working to determine the identity of. Officials have already been able to determine the bodies were not birds or pieces of another plane, a meteorite or ice. Rocket launches and ground artillery shots were also ruled out as possible explanations for the incident.



http://www.ufocasebook.com/2008b/romanianplane.html

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Romanian_fighter_jet_hit_by_UFOs


Then the latest news is the one concerning a UFO seen by a three police helicopter crew in Wales on June the 8th.

A police helicopter crew has spotted what is described as an unusual aircraft in the Vale of Glamorgan.

The helicopter was above St Athan, which is home to an RAF base and close to Cardiff International Airport.

The police Eurocopter, an EC135T21, was hovering in the sky above the base, waiting to land, at 12.40am on June 8, a police spokeswoman confirmed.

While she went on to confirm the sighting of what was termed an "unusual aircraft", she went out of her way to avoid using the term UFO.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1315843.ece

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7465041.stm



What is alarming is the fact that the last two events relate to a similar pattern ;

1) Both the Romanian jet strike and the Wales near miss were reports from amongst the most qualified experts in aerial phenomena on the planet.

The Romanian pilot is a military officer who was on a training mission.

The helicopter crew in Wales were experts in surveillance and would have had hundreds if not thousands of hours of flight time on their records, and as such they are amongst the best qualified experts in the country to decide what is a UFO or not. To ridicule the evidence of these men is idiotic.

These are men who work every day with the latest surveillance technology and who would know how to differentiate between various aerial phenomena.



2) The Wales UFO was sighted near a military base which automatically raises issues of National Security.


3) Both the Romanian UFO and the Wales UFO appear to have deliberatly targeted the plane and helicopter.

It was only evasive action by the helicopter pilots that avoided the crash.

This suggests the objects are hostile, though symbolically hostile not directly hostile. Any object with the technology to 'blank ' out its image from the latest Hi-Tech surveillance technology as on the helicopter and that is able to keep pace with a jet fighter should also have a sophisticated weapons system.

The fact that these objects appear to be involved in some form of symbolic activity that verges on passive / aggressive suggests that they are trying to send some kind of message. A warning perhaps, a back off sign.


The Vietnam object appears to have exploded. The fact that the wrecage is still being analysed suggests that it is either an foreign military object and is being kept under wraps or they do not know what it is yet.

The Wales UFO is very alarming.


The fact the objects appear to acting in a aggressive manner towards these aircraft suggests these events should be investigated properly.

During the Second World War my Grandfather saw a UFO. He had been badly wounded in the pacific when the Royal Navy ship he was serving on was escorting a convoy involved in attack by Japanese suicide bombers. The Japanese planes attacked the boat next to my grandfathers and the plane blew up on the deck.

The wreckage from the exploding japanese plane blew across the gap between the ships and hit my grandfather who was standing on deck manning a machine gun I believe. The wreckage hit him and he lost a eye, two fingers and two ribs.

He was taken on board a US hospital ship and taken to Baltimore in America where he stayed in a naval hospital for a year recovering from his wounds.

When he was well enough to return home he sailed back to the UK.

He arrived in Victoria Station and was walking down the platform to the train to take him to Strood in Kent, when he saw a large black object fly overhead in total silence.

My grandfather stood there and watched the object fly over him when suddenly he was thrown to ground by a police officer who had rugby tackled him.

The officer was screaming ' Get down you stupid bastard '.

My grandfather chinned the copper, got his arms off him and was about to ask what the bloody hell he was doing when the VI exploded in the streets nearby showering the area in rubble.

My grandfather did know what a V1 was simply because he had been away so long that the V1 attacks had not happened and so he had no experienc of them, and so he did not know what the object was that flew over him until he was told that they been identified as German missiles.

These events need to be investigated, not ignored.

These witnesses are military pilots, highly trained surveillance police officers - they are not train drivers or bricklayers. These are the best trained people in their fields, experts that we allow to fly the most expensive and most dangerous weapons in the world. They are people who give evidence in court cases that result in people going to prison.

These are witnesses who must not be ignored.

Something is happening in our skies, and the government either knows about it and is hiding or it or we are led by fools who need a kick up the arse for being so complacent.

A UFO is merely something we do not understand yet, just as the V1 my grandfather saw was something he did not understand the nature of, until it blew up.

We need to assume that somehing is happening in our skies, if we dont we may not be prepared for what may come next.


December 29th 2008 image - photographed Cornwall - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article651296.ece



December 2008 image second UFO seen in Cornwall - could be same object
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article637499.ece


VIDEO CLIP

3rd April 2007 - Two huge UFO's seen by more than 1 pilot plus his passengers and also caught on radar - over a mile long -

http://cdn.streamcdn.com/cdn.asp?c_id=channeltv&mt=channeltv&fn=ufovt.wmv


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/guernsey/6591365.stm

12 comments:

alanorei said...

Thanks Lee

You are quite right to highlight this subject, bizarre as it seems.

The political aspect may seem unconnected but as you have highlighted:

1. Trained observers see these phenomena.

2. Whatever they are, they pose a threat to convential aviation, both civil and military and they invade our airspace.

3. They are effectively immune to convential retaliation and can outfly any aircraft in any airforce in the world.

It has been said that UFOs definitely exist. It is the airforce that doesn't exist.

4. They are reported as being associated with serious power blackouts. Clearly this is a danger, say, to motorists travelling at night on lighted stretches of roadway and anyone in hospital on a life support machine.

5. Although I can't immediately give chapter and verse on this, I understand that experienced psychiatrists who have interviewed professed abductee victims (without knowing in advance of the abduction) have concluded they have suffered a genuine and severe trauma.

6. Abductee victims are said to be subjected to harrowing physical examinations by force. Contact with UFOs and their occupants, whatever both are, can result in serious crimes of kidnapping and assault.

7. Even close encounter victims may suffer serious burns and even radiation sickness.

8. Observers who report sightings, e.g. Roswell but also many years later in Cumbria, may be subjected to threatening interviews by apparent government agents (sometimes called MIB, Men in Black), whose identities, if given and then traced, turn out to be false.

More could be said, especially about so-called government cover-ups but enough evidence is available to show that a serious problem exists and should be addressed.

How is something else but I can recommend a book by Baptist pastor, Dr Peter S. Ruckman, called Black is Beautiful (not about the black race but actually addressing the phenomena as a whole, including MIB). You can get it on Amazon.

dizzyfatplonka said...

I once witnessed a flying brick I know it was a flying brick because a bricklayer identified it for me.

Not a butcher or a baker or a candlestick maker. No a real professional bricklayer.

Forgive the sarcasm Lee only reading this post puts me in mind of the War of the Worlds that panicked America and how the elites envisioned the idea they could unite the planet under a One World Government by convincing us of a threat from other planetary systems or some mad shit like that.

Its possible the whole ufology thing has been created as a cover for black ops, and I would propose psyops against the poor bewildered sheeple of this ever faster pased NWO

Defender of Liberty said...

I fear the reality of the shadow government and the NWO ruling the world far more than I fear the possibility of UFO's existing.

I dont know what they are, I merely know they are there.

When you have seen one you will know too.

There are too many of us seeing them to keep saying we all cranks and far too many people seeing them that cannot be discredited by being called nutters - eg pilots, astronauts, police, US Presidents and military officers and more and more evidence is being gathered.

dizzyfatplonka said...

"When you have seen one you will know too."

Dont get me going on that one I could write a book on my experience and media cover ups.

It just seems to me that the implants that they claim have been removed from abductees must have been a great cover for testing the implants our Governments will soon be wishing to impose on us.
Forget the Aliens just be prepared to give the men in black a dig, so they know how real you are.
Use a flying brick on them if you must :-)

Defender of Liberty said...

The way I see it is either ;

1) The UFOs exist

2) The US has space satellites with missiles and advanced space ships of advanced engineering beyond anything we are aware of

3) The US is hoaxing UFOs as part of a planned process of abductions, human experiments, cattle mutilations, implanting people, using drugs on people and planning a NWO

4) Everyone who has seen one from US presidents like Carter and Reagan, astronauts, police, pilots, military officers, civilians etc etc are all nutcases and this means the world is run mainly by nutcases

To be honest 2, 3 and 4 are more terrifying than 1.

If 2, 3 and 4 are true then we are all screwed.

dizzyfatplonka said...

No4 is true regardless.

If everyone just focuses on No4 you have a chance, bacause then you know the boys in blue are not realy boys in blue just doing their job, they are realy human beings like me and you being payed to act out a role. The planet is full of actors convinced that their role is for real. Understand that much and the matrix of control has been broken.

Essemess said...

Lee, very interesting article.

Little green men? Maybe not. Covert Government operation? Perhapse....

Check the dates on the images you reference towards the bottom of the article. December 29th 2008 and December 2008 are still a way off yet ;)

Mr Potter said...

The Vietnamese explosion of an apparent UFO is most interesting. It brings to mind the famous Ubatuba cse of 1957 when an alleged UFO was reported as exploding. Much controversy surrounds the source of the pure magenesium samples recovered from the site. Some say that they are so pure that they are not terrestrial. Others say that the metallic fragments were from hi-tech scientific tests being performed on behalf of the space industry.

Summary of case below:

On September 14, 1957, Ibrahim Sued, a columnist for the Rio de Janeiro newspaper O Globo, printed a letter which he had received, concerning a UFO incident. Accompanying the letter were three small pieces of white metal. The writer of the letter described an event in which a "flying disk" exploded over the beach at Ubatuba, in Sao Paulo Province. One of the samples was analyzed and the results showed a 99.99% pure magnesium.

Mr Potter said...

Alanorei above states some very pertinent and correct observations on the UFO Phenomenon:

"5. Although I can't immediately give chapter and verse on this, I understand that experienced psychiatrists who have interviewed professed abductee victims (without knowing in advance of the abduction) have concluded they have suffered a genuine and severe trauma.

6. Abductee victims are said to be subjected to harrowing physical examinations by force. Contact with UFOs and their occupants, whatever both are, can result in serious crimes of kidnapping and assault.

7. Even close encounter victims may suffer serious burns and even radiation sickness.

8. Observers who report sightings, e.g. Roswell but also many years later in Cumbria, may be subjected to threatening interviews by apparent government agents (sometimes called MIB, Men in Black), whose identities, if given and then traced, turn out to be false."

As these have been well-documented it is time for scientists and the Government to begin questioning what is going on within our midst.

The media also need to stop ridiculing the subject and its witnesses and stop sensationalising a serious subject.

It is very cheap to take pot shots of ridiculing the subject and its witnesses and examiners. This is the Mark of Ignorance.

It takes real prescence of the spirit of genuine enquiry to take an open mind and begin asking questions of what is going on.

I doubt though that the authorities will provide us with the truth. they are as ignorant as we are and have not got much of a clue either.

That is why they have to dismiss the sighting and dismiss the reporters.

It is the Act of Stupidity by our leaders.

Mr Potter said...

Thanks Alanoeri for mentioning the book above,

"How is something else but I can recommend a book by Baptist pastor, Dr Peter S. Ruckman, called Black is Beautiful (not about the black race but actually addressing the phenomena as a whole, including MIB). You can get it on Amazon."

I will have to get this to see if it throws any light on this dark subject. Have you read it? What's your views on it?

Mr Potter said...

Lee said

"The Romanian pilot is a military officer who was on a training mission.

The helicopter crew in Wales were experts in surveillance and would have had hundreds if not thousands of hours of flight time on their records, and as such they are amongst the best qualified experts in the country to decide what is a UFO or not. To ridicule the evidence of these men is idiotic.

These are men who work every day with the latest surveillance technology and who would know how to differentiate between various aerial phenomena."

This may be true up to a point.

However, merely because a UFO witness happens to be a military personnel or policeman does not automatically mean that what they see is a 'UFO'.

By defintion a UFO is simple an Unexplained Flying Object, with the emphasis on unidentifed. It may not remain unidentifed if an investigator can resolve the case or the observer(s) realises what they have actually seen.

In truth, many profesional witnesse s have reported seeing UFOs that have turned out to be IFOs (Identified Flying Objects)upon investigation.

I know of cases where two police officers agreed with a witness that the object they were all looking at was a 'UFO' (meaning some sort of 'craft') whereas a civilain investigation revealed the object to be nothing more than the planet Venus.

Of course, police officers etc make accuarte observations and redord carefully what the see.

However, that does NOT mean that they KNOW what they are viewing.

There is so much in the sky that has the potential to be misidentified that it is not surprising that so many people misidentify objects in the sky.

The second point i wish to make is that any report is simply that, a report. We do not have actual 'UFOs' to examine. We simply have reports.

Any sighting has to be carefully investigated and evaluated first. Even though it may remain unidentified does NOT mean that (a) the report will remain unidentified a snew evidence or information may come to light, and (b) another investigator may be more objective or thorough than the initial investigator.

A couple observing a bright light following them in the car for an hour sounds very much like an IFO, an astronomical object. The parameters of such an observation lead one to conclude that it wa snot a genuine unknown.

Most cases of this type turn out to be the result of a misidentifcation of a bright star or planet, usually Venus.

The thing is that the subject of UFOs has so much myth, belief and expectations associated with it that you cannot investigate UFO reports unless you also study the psychosocial relationships that go to make up the complex world of UFO reports.

Let us await the outcome of proper investigations first before jumping to conclusions, though some of the more wilder believers in extraterrestrials and cover-ups will sometimes say that because a sighting is shown to have been identified then the investigator themselves have performed a 'cover-up' and are in league with the Government, or MIBs!

Seems too much like politics!

alanorei said...

Re: book, in reply to Mr Potter

Yes, I have read the book a couple of times.

The author traces the phenomenon throughout history and includes a lot of detailed extracts from reports of more contemporary sightings.

Not all of his material is independently verifiable - not unusual for ufology - but he does reach an overarching conclusion, w.r.t. hideous genetic engineering of a Satanic nature that pre-dates 2000 BC and is to be repeated in the not-too-distant future.

Over 10 years have elapsed since the book was published and since the crisis the author predicts has not eventuated in that time, his warnings may seem alarmist.

But it's like the San Andreas Fault. A massive earthquake will take place on the western seaboard of the US. Even if it's later rather than sooner, it will happen.

I think therefore that the author's conclusions are still valid.

It is fair to say, as indicated earlier, that he is one of the few researchers in this area who has attempted a comprehensive thesis.

You mentioned politics in relation to UFOs. This is also Dr Ruckman's stance, especially where the CIA is involved.