Showing posts with label Pamela Geller. Show all posts
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Saturday, 2 July 2011

The Gates of Vienna Blog Betrays the Anti-Islamist Struggle

Last night I entered into a debate on the Gates of Vienna blog about how the anti-Islamist struggle and movement has been hijacked by agents of Eretz Zionism and is now being used to promote the goals of Eretz Zionism instead of the goals of the anti-Islamist struggle itself.

A few hours later the entire thread and associated comments were removed by the Gates of Vienna admin staff.

You can see for yourself just how pathetic the Gates of Vienna blog has become when you see the endless list of censored comments by the admin staff on the articles about the attack on the EDL by Pamela Geller.

Link here ;

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2011/06/open-letter-to-pamela-geller.html


It seems that the entire anti-Islamist movement has been de-railed by its pathetic abasement before all things Zionist.

That is to be expected.

The interests of Zionism and Zionists are simply Zionism and Zionists - they are never the interests of the nation states, societies or anti-Islamist movements that allow Zionists of any race or religion to become leaders or activists in those movements.

It appears that the entire anti-Islamist struggle is now predicated on its being run by Zionists for the benefit of Zionism.

Anyone who dares say ' the primary interest of the anti-Islamist struggle is anti-Islamism and not the interests of Israel or Zionism ' is then censored, villified and expelled from the movement.

We have much to thank Pamela Geller for.

Due to her arrogance and hubris in attacking the EDL she has exposed the rot at the heart of the so called 'anti-islamist' movement.

The Eretz Zionists and their co-conspirators have infiltrated, subverted and taken control of the movement and now use it for their goals, and not for the goals of the anti-Islamist movement itself.

Even those who supposedly support the EDL and are against Gellers attack on the EDL, feel they must abase themselves before Zionism and censor anyone or anything that offends anything Zionist.

The Gates of Vienna and Pamela Geller are merely different sides of the same coin - they both genuflect and abase themselves before the Eretz Zionists either directly (Geller) or indirectly (Gates of Vienna).

Neither regards the role of the anti-Islamist movement as simply to resist Islamism -instead both allow the most vicious, crass and pathetic racism on their sites against all Muslims (when the aim of the anti-islamist struggle is supposedly to fight ISLAMISM NOT MUSLIMS) and both support the vicious racial supremacism of the Eretz Zionists and their death grip on the entire anti-Islamist movement itself.

The anti-Islamist movement must gain the support of all Muslims and ex-Muslims who are against Islamism in order to create a broad front against Islamism and to validate the anti-Islamist struggle.

The anti-Islamist struggle has now become a movement that hates all Arabs and Muslims, regardless of their own personal committment to resisting Islamism.

Even Palestinian Nationalists like those in the PLO are abused and villified even though they have fought and died fighting against Islamist groups like Hamas.

Why ? because the anti-Islamist movement is focused on supporting the interests of the Zionists and the Israeli Far Right - not the struggle against Islamism.

There is no logic in the anti-Islamist movement anymore, just endless surrender to the demands and interests of the racists in the Far Right of Israeli politics.

Instead the anti-Islamist movement has degenerated into a pit of vile racists who regard all Muslims in the same way that Hitler once regarded all the Jews.

The irony being of course that it is Jews and gentile Zionists who are tolerating and espousing this anti-Muslims racism and Eretz Zionist Jewish racial supremacism in the anti-Islamist movement.

The anti-Islamist movement is now a pathetic joke.

Its entire leadership is run by racists and zionist lickspittles whose primary loyalty is not to the nti-Islamist struggle, our nations or our people. Their loyalty is to Israel and Zionism.

The fact that even sites like the Gates of Vienna now censor anti-Islamists solely on the basis that they are not sufficiently 'loyal' to the Eretz Zionist agenda and the racist Far Right of Israel shows us how much the entire anti-Islamist struggle has become a nest of vipers foll;owing their own agenda and not the interests of the anti-Islamist movement.

On the Gates of Vienna site, as on Pamela Gellers website, every evil little anti-Muslim racist is allowed free rein to vent their hatred of all Muslims, whilst any whisper of a criticism of Israel and Zionism is ruthlessely censored and removed.

So we must thank Pamela Geller as she has done the entire anti-Islamist movement a favour by finally turning over that rock and exposing the dirty little secret of the anti-Islamist movement to the whole world.


















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Pamela Geller and the EDL

As a Nationalist I support all forms of nationalism on the planet - from Israeli Nationalism to Palestinian Nationalism, as nationalism as an ideology is the most powerful opponent of Islamism.

Those nationalists who love their nation and people do not seek to invade and subjugate other nations and other peoples.

Nationalists just want to live in peace in their own borders in accord with their own cultures and traditions.

They care about their own national security, national culture and the interests of their own people.

Hence as a nationalist, I support Israeli nationalism but resist Eretz Zionism.

Israel was founded by Zionists whose views are vastly different from the Eretz Zionists we see in the world today, from Israel to America to Britain.

The Zionism of the Jews who fled the Holocaust, is not the Eretz Zionism at work in the world today.

The Zionism at work in the world today I designate as Eretz Zionism.

The signs of Eretz Zionism are ;

1) It is racist - as it regards the Jewish people as a chosen race and all other peoples as sub-humans and will commit ethnic cleansing in purusit of imperialist goals

2) It is militaristic in that it seeks to use military force to invade, conquer and subjugate sovereign nations in pursuit of its imperial goals

3) It is imperialist in that it seeks to create a Greater Israel instead of defending and securing the original national borders of Israel as defined by the borders at the time of the 14 th May 1948.

4) It subverts the political, economic, cultural, academic and media institutions of nation states around the world in order to empower the Eretz Zionist agenda and at the same time undermines the national based anti-Islamist strugles in those nations as ir promotes its own agenda.

Eretz Zionism is not a manifestation Israeli Nationalism, it just pretends to be in order to disarm its opponents with the tedious and never ending whine of 'anti-semitism' when its actions in our societies are revealed.

The real agenda of Eretz Zionism is to create a Greater Israel, it is not to defend the interests of the state of Israel and the Jewish and Palestinian and Christian citizens of Israel.

This Eretz Zionism an Empire of Israel that includes the lands of Syria, Jordan and Egypt.

It is not an Israeli Nationalist vision, it is an imperialist vision - and hence cannot be regarded as within the parameters of a nationalist ideology.

Such a vision of a Greater Israel cannot be created and imposed without invasions, genocide, ethnic cleansing and wars against the neighbours of Israel.

Such a vision is in fact pure madness.

Eretz Zionists are in fact as dangerous, delusional and as much of a threat to democracy in our nations, and in Israel, as the Islamists.

Eretz Zionism is therefore a racist, imperialist, militaristic ideology that is a threat not just to the survival of the state of Israel and all the citizens of Israel, but also represents an existential threat to all of its neighbours.

Eretz Zionism is not interested in the security of the present state of Israel, instead it wants to invade, subjugate and expel the peoples of lands that surround Israel in pursuit of Zionist goals ;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel

Greater Israel occasionally refers to the Promised Land (defined in Genesis 15:18-21) or to the Land of Israel, and is also called Complete Land of Israel or "Entire Land of Israel" (Hebrew: ארץ ישראל השלמה‎, Eretz Yisrael Hashlemah). This is a more accurate translation than "Greater" Israel, which is used in English but has no real counterpart in Hebrew.

The Bible contains three geographical definitions of the Land of Israel. The first, found in Genesis 15:18-21, is vague. It describes a large territory, "from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates", comprising all of modern-day Israel, the Palestinian Territories, and Lebanon, as well as large parts of Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. The proportion of current Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey included in this territory is debatable.

The Jewish Division of the EDL appears to have been led by supporters of Eretz Zionism, not Israeli Nationalists.

The problem for the EDL was that it allowed these Eretz Zionist extremists into its ranks, as it did not analyse what those people believed before it allowed them into its ranks.

The nationalist struggle for the survival of both Britain and Israel is not just against Islamism, it is also against the Eretz Zionists.

The Eretz Zionists do not serve the interests of anyone but themselves and their own evil and racist ideology.

The attack on the EDL by Pamela Gellar reveals one of three realities.

1) Pamela Geller is unable to differentiate between Zionism, which created the state of Israel, and Eretz Zionism which wants to create a Greater Israel

2) That Pamela Geller is an Eretz Zionist and not an Zionist - and hence she is as much of an extremist as the Islamists

3) That Pamela Geller is a racist who thinks that the EDL has no worth or validity in the struggle against Islam and the defence of the ENGLISH people except as a tool for the promotion of the interests of Eratz Zionists. It seems the complaints of a single Jewish ex-member of the EDL, Roberta Moore, is more important to Pamela Geller than the entire struggle against Islamism in the UK and the EDL's struggle to defend the English people from Islamist terrorism. That is frankly, a classic racist position. It infers that the EDL has no worth as a movement, nor do the English people have any rights to defend their interests, except and unless an Eretz Zionist 'legitimises' them and their struggle.

The EDL is the ENGLISH DEFENCE LEAGUE.

It is not the ERETZ ZIONIST Defence League.

British and English people should join the EDL to protect Britain and the British people, of all races and religions, from Islamist terrorism.

The idea the EDL should be a vehicle for the promotion of the interests of Eratz Israel and Eretz Zionists is frankly moronic.

The EDL, in order to have any logical consistency, needs to reject all racial extremists from its ranks - be they black, white, Jew or Gentile.

Those who have infiltrated the EDL and who seek to use the EDL as a mechanism for the promotion of goals not linked with the interests of England and the British people - of all races and religions - need to be expelled.

The EDL and the British people need to understand the difference between Israeli Nationalism and Eretz Zionism.

The fact is that the majority of those people who support the right of Israel to exist, who support Israeli Nationalism and who support the state of Israel that protects the interests of all its citizens - Jews, Gentiles, Christians, Arabs and Palestinians - have to make a stand against the pernicious influence of Eretz Zionism within the anti-Jihad movement as a whole.

Pamela Geller must make clear where she stands.

Does she support the state of Israel or does she support the vision of a Greater Israel ?

Does she support the rights of all Israeli citizens, Jews and Gentile, and their equality before the law as citizens of Israel or does she support Eretz Zioinist racial supremacism and the second class citizenship status of non-Jews, Muslims and Christians in Israel ?

Does she support the ethnic cleansing of the peoples of Egypt, Syria and Jordan in order to create a Greater Israel ?

Does she regard the Jewish people as superior to all other racial groups ?

Does she regard the Jewish religion as superior to all other religions ?

Does she support the anti-Jihad struggle or is she simply an advocate for Eretz Zionism ?

Does she respect the right of the EDL to defend the ENGLISH people from Islamism or does she think that only Jews have a right to organise to defend themselves from Islamism ?

Does she support Israeli Nationalism or Eretz Zionism ?

Does she think the demands of a single Eretz Zionist are more important than the rights of an entire people, the English people, to defend themselves from Islamism ?

Pamela Geller has opened up a whole can of worms with her attack on the EDL.

She now needs to explain her position or else the suspicions will linger that her involvement in the anti-Islamist struggle is nothing more than a ploy to usurp the whole movement for the interests of Eretz Zionism itself.




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