Tuesday, 19 April 2011

Manson and Ragnarok

Image - Loki and the Rhine Maidens.

Those that mock Mason, do so only as they are fools.

Manson was and still is, in Jungian terms, a man gripped in the frenzy of an archetype - that of The Trickster or Loki for those of the Norse faith.

His entire life has been the working out of that archetype in real time - from his mother being a prostitute, him being born in a brothel and him spending most of his life in prisons.

And as such he speaks forth straight from the realm of the sub-conscious and not the ego conscious - and hence he has seen the fall of man many, many times before in history and can see connections in events that we , welded to our rational minds, cannot ever discerne.

He may be mad, but no one ever said the mad are stupid.

Far from it, for madness and genius are twin sisters.

Loki in the Norse myths is the god that gave man intelligence, and yet who becomes Mans greatest enemy and the god who triggers Ragnarok.

Manson is in contact with the past, literally as he speaks not from the ego but via the Trickster archetype which is found within the inherited sub-conscious - and when The Trickster in any community warns that community then they best listen.

Those who have adopted the Paradigm Control position of opposing climate change due to the debunking of man made global warming theory, are as much idiots as those proponents of man made global warming theory.

Its not pollution that is the problem, for pollution is merely a symptom of the real problem - human over population.

Human over population, and the industries and pollution that peddle products to humanity, are killing the planet.

CFC's are a symptom of human over population.

If there were less humans, there would be less environmental destruction, less pollution and less climate change.

The Trickster Manson is the voice in the wilderness, a voice who the foolish mock - but the wise know different.

Tthe wise know that the voice in the widlerness is often the only one telling the truth, and as it is a truth WE DO NOT WANT TO HEAR, we refuse to hear it until it is too late.

Manson was right about Helter Skelter - every year in America race attacks against whites increase.

U.S. Government official crime figures to show that 37,460 White women and girls were raped by Black men in the United States in 2005. That is more than 100 White women raped by Blacks every day. In contrast, the government figures show that there are no rapes by White men against Black women in that year.

Manson was right - we are in Helter Skelter right now.

Perhaps we ought to listen to what he says about what comes next.


Showing no remorse for the crimes for which he was condemned 40 years ago the 76 year-old chose instead to express his views on President Barack Obama and environmental doom.

In a series of rambling interviews from his Californian jail, the man who brainwashed members of his commune known as "The Manson Family" into butchering eight people on two nights in August 1969 described himself as a "very mal hombre".

Among those stabbed in the killing spree was Sharon Tate, the wife of film director Roman Polanski, who was eight months pregnant with his child.

Referring to the crimes for which he was sentenced to death, a penalty later commuted to life imprisonment when California abolished the death penalty, Manson said: "I live in the underworld, I'm very mean, I'm a very bad man.

But he went on: "I am a martyr. But I am also a victim. And a performer. I am everything and I am nothing."

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During the interviews with Spain's Vanity Fair magazine, published on Tuesday, he said: "You have to accept yourself as God. You have to realise you're just the Devil just as much as you're God, that you're everything and you're nothing at all."

Refusing to discuss whether he still posed a danger to society ahead of a parole review scheduled for next year, he instead warned of a "greater danger" – that of global warming.

"Everyone's God and if we don't wake up to that there's going to be no weather because our polar caps are melting because we're doing bad things to the atmosphere," he said.

"The automobiles and fossil fuels are destroying the atmosphere and we won't have air to breathe.

"If we don't change that as rapidly as I'm speaking to you now, if we don't put the green back on the planet and put the trees back that we've butchered, if we don't go to war against the problem ..." he added, trailing off.

He went on to describe the US President as "a slave of Wall Street".

"I think Obama is an idiot for doing what he's doing," he said, in his first published words since the late 1980s. "They're playing with him."

During the trial in 1971 the court heard that Manson had established a commune in the desert where he demonstrated hypnotic control over his devotees, the majority vulnerable young women, fuelled by drugs and sex.

He ordered his followers to commit the murders in the warped belief that it would provoke an apocalyptic race war, which he called "Helter Skelter" after the Beatles song that he interpreted as a coded prophecy of such conflict.

A hardened racist – he appeared in court with a tattoo of a swastika crudely carved onto his forehead Manson believed that he and his followers would lead the survivors of the war that ensued.

Five members of "The Family", four of them women, were found guilty for carrying out the murders and Manson – who was not present at the scenes of the crime – for being the ringleader.

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Defender of Liberty said...

You will find that as Manson was and is clearly clinically insane - he was never guilty of any crimes technically.

The law states that the insane are not responsible for their actions.

The fact that the original trial found him mentally competent to stand trial, is not what a modern trial would find when faced with the same evidence today.

So you cannot adopt the logically and legally impossible position of saying that ;

1) Manson is insane

2) Manson is guilty of any crimes.

Either Manson is insane, and he is not guilty of any crimes, or he is sane and he is guilty.

But Manson is not sane is he.

Nor has Manson ever been sane.

Manson has been and still is mad.

That is the point of what I am saying.

Just because he is mad, does not mean he is stupid.

Nor does his madness mean he is not capable of conceiving ideas that are correct, but which our rational minds refuse to accept.

The fact is that Mansons involvement in, and instigation of the Manson murders, is such that he can never be released.

But that is not the issue, nor his lack of remorse for the crimes ( Manson has no remorse, as he has no such human emotion ) , what is the issue of what Manson is saying.

Those who expect their killers like Manson to be remorseful for their crimes are delusional.

Manson is not 'human' in relation to his individual consciousness, therefore why expect him to have human emotions ?

Extant said...

There is a simple test to sanity in the eyes of the Law, "does he know right from wrong" period.

The Bastards get me every time on it ;o)

Madness I see as a beautifull extended islolate expression of a free Human beings mind , within our modern enviroment, that is. last Century, they would have called it as being Excentric, the artist, the inventer, the composer , the genious and so on.

Today if we show any "individual" atributes of indifference and or resistance we are seen as the ultimate enemy of the fascist state; soon as we are spotted, we are marked for "normalisation" .
The normalisation process starts with unwanted beaurocracy, that leads swiftly to exorbitant and cruel Harrassment from the full force of the indepartmental cross section of all Authority's.

Soons takes a pace a to full throttle of persecution from all sides of the State machine until they break the "individual" , the same who did dare speak up as that very individual.

Something has to break .

What they will never be able to see is what some never break, some just get angrier and angrier until there is a new Roul Moat , a Cumbria shooter or a Manson maniac is born !

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