Saturday, 6 March 2010

The UKIP Challenge

I have just read the speech of Geert Wilders in London the other day.

The important part is this part ;

Ladies and gentlemen, I believe in another policy, it is time for change. We must make haste. We can’t wait any longer. Time is running out. If I may quote one of my favourite American presidents: Ronald Reagan once said: “We need to act today, to preserve tomorrow”. That is why I propose the following measures, I only mention a few, in order to preserve our freedom:

" First, we will have to defend freedom of speech. It is the most important of our liberties. In Europe and certainly in the Netherlands, we need something like the American First Amendment.

Second, we will have to end and get rid of cultural relativism. To the cultural relativists, the shariah socialists, I proudly say: Our Western culture is far superior to the Islamic culture. Don't be affraid to say it. You are not a racist when you say that our own culture is better.

Third, we will have to stop mass immigration from Islamic countries. Because more Islam means less freedom.

Fourth, we will have to expel criminal immigrants and, following denaturalisation, we will have to expel criminals with a dual nationality. And there are many of them in my country.

Fifth, we will have to forbid the construction of new mosques. There is enough Islam in Europe. Especially since Christians in Turkey, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan and Indonesia are mistreated, there should be a mosque building-stop in the West.

And last but not least, we will have to get rid of all those so-called leaders. I said it before: Fewer Chamberlains, more Churchills. Let's elect real leaders. "

Here is the UKIP challenge ;

If the BNP had said any of the above points as stated by Geert Wilders then UKIP would have called us racists.

The Compulsory Repatriation of criminal immigrants and dual nationality immigrants who commit crimes is, and always has been, BNP policy.

Yet UKIP call us racists for having that as our policy.

So then UKIP -

1) is Geert Wilders a racist for having the same policies as the BNP ?

2) Why do UKIP call the BNP 'racists' but bring in Geert Wilders to demand what are BNP policies ?

3) If the BNP and Geert Wilders are racists for having the same policies - then arent UKIP also 'racists' for bringing in Geert Wilders in order for him to peddle his racist policies in the UK ?

4) If Geert Wilders isnt a racist, then the BNP are also not racists - isnt that correct ?

Lord Pearson and UKIP though they were clever to bring in Geert Wilders into the UK - but what Geert Wilders has said can now be used to attack UKIP itself, for UKIP cannot call the BNP racists and Geert Wilders not a racist when both the BNP and Geert Wilders espouse the exact same policies.

Unlike Geert Wilders the BNP have never said the Koran should be banned - just Islamists executed or deported and free speech imposed to allow anyone to criticise Islam and Muslims.

So who is the real extremist and racist ?

Over to you UKIP.

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Andraste said...

UKIP are a joke.

Wilders regularly calls Islam a "retarded culture", in fact he said it again this time - imagine what the UKIP retards would be saying about Nick Griffin he made such a comment.

Also, I see the EDL waving placards stating "England needs a Geert" - we already have someone far superior to Geert - Nick Griffin. What is the agenda of the EDL?

Andraste said...

Video: BBC interview with Geert Wilders yesterday.

Video: Yasmin Alibhai-Brown and Terry Christain argue about Geert's visit

Wolfblood said...

The focus is on Pearson.
If Ukrap backtrack on anything Wilders has said, they will finally prove what they really are.
Keep an eye on them!

Anonymous said...

Hypocrisy is embedded within UKIP, as well as the Parliamentary parties. Double standards all round with these traitors.

UKIP = Pointless Tory cowards said...

UKIP are Tory cowards, they wait for the BNP to gain hard won ground then try and steal the cloths while sneering at the party that lead the way.

Scum Tory cowards.

get real wilders said...

I just watched wilders spech on the main site and it is from a nationalist perspective sickening bullshit.

The contradictions with nationalsm are many and indeed his whole stance can be seen as a tool which could be used to destroy real nationalsts and further the aims of the NWO.

We are seeing the creation of the new jews by the NWO for the same ends.

we are looking at a sympton and not the cause, we are pointing fingers at the powerless and not those with power.

We could see the solution of the problem being the total destruction of the nation once the so called threat has been removed!

The BNP HAVE to take a wider view, this bullshit will not work!

You will simply be bypassed by the cretins of the EDL or UKIP and other such state opperated stooges.

What the hell is the BNP thinking? more media madness! said...

I see Nick is backing down from TV debates!


Either you have your arguments and your ideology or you don't, you cast aside all trivia and get to the main points.

It generates publicity and hopefully a few points will stick, the public know Nick will be set up, but it does not matter, one non PC point score is worth a thousand PC propaganda drones.

As propaganda is lies and does not stick, just one credible argument from Nick is enough to break the camels back.

Someone better re advise Nick and Simon darby on his throw the media out suicide missions.

Yes the media are scum they will report you in a bad light, they will lie about you, but you are finished if they ignore you!

Think about it guys, you are not big enough to NOT need the media machine just yet.

One good bit of truth released is worth more than a hundred years of lies!

focus more on the EU, the banker bailout debt we DONT owe, the NWO and climate change hoax.

Now get in there and mingle, tell the truth and expose the lies, like you are paid to do, don't run away claiming the high ground!

When you have a majority and have reformed the country, perhaps then you can try such suicidal tactics!

Anonymous said...

If Nick won't debate every chance he gets on a national network,(it will be portrayed that he ran away - another negative!) Then get Andrew Brons to step in, or John Bowden or yourself lee.

NEVER turn down a chance to get the nationalist message accross, never turn away the press and antagonise them even more than they would have been, risking a press blackout.

Trust me a blackout would have killed the party in the run up to the Euro elections and others.

I found the BNP through the national media trying to portray them in a negative light, while the others were condeming him, I could hear the truth from a brave man for the first time in decades, I could decide for myself.

NEVER turn down a media event, NEVER, have faith in your cause.

I don't want to here crap about Question time being a setup, It worked in our favour and while Nicks performance was poor for him (though he was under great pressure and he seemed to suffer under it) it did not matter as he still managed to get some very strong points across even when he was only running at 50%.

The main thing people want is a strong and courageous leader who does not shy away from the truth, does not try and butter up the media with compromises and mealy words.

Get in their and Fight Nick, if the PC lobby get too one sided after making your point, switch subjects to the other issues such as the global warming lie and the banker bailout and europe.

areas where they are weak with no media concensous to fall back on.


They wont have a clue how to deal with that!

Anonymous said...

My Western culture is far superior to the Islamic culture.

Time for a rennaisance of British culture and indeed European cultures

Anonymous said...

I agree that Nick Griffin will be seen as running away if he doesnt do press interviews or debates. As for the Question Time he was told many times I am sure beforehand that the focus would be on him and it would require him to practice meticulously to turn the question and counter punch instead of which he smiled at Bonnie Greer and took it on the chin.
Also next time dont chuck out times reporters with the heavies. Just ask them to leave , and if they dont call the police and say that the meeting will not start until they have left. Fight intelligently and with cunning after all the left have for the last 100 years.