Tory Toffs Use Tory Generals / Lords to attack BNP

How wonderful that all these war heroes have come out and attacked the BNP.

What bravery, what insight - what hypocrisy.

No doubt each will get their peerage from David Cameron after he has been in power for a few months.

None of them stood up and attacked the Labour government over the Iraq and Afghanistan War.

Nah, they attack the BNP.

The Establishment never attacks the Establishment.

The BNP never sent British troops to fight in an illegal war for oil.

The BNP never sent British troops to die in Iraq and Afghanistan for oil and pipelines.

The BNP unlike the Tories has never supplied the enemies of Britain and the tyrants of the world with arms and weapons.

As for the Tories.

They provided Saddam Hussein with his chemical weapons plant that produced the nerve gas that killed the Kurds ;

http://www.photius.com/rogue_nations/guardian_030306.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/thepowerhourflashstats@thepowerhour.com/msg00680.html

http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/sr195/foot.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2003/feb/28/uk.iraq

These generals were nothing more than lackeys of the Labour government during an illegal war and lackeys of the tories now they are out of the army looking for peerages from the incoming Tory government.

The other war heroes like Simon Weston are involving themselves in politics, therefore they are inviting people to analyse their motives and political beliefs.

The moment people like McNab and simon weston involved themselves in politics, then they invite a response.

They cant hide behind their heroic past when they become involved in politics.

Therefore they will now be questioned.

Being a war hero does not mean you are beyond criticism once you get involved in politics.

MCNAB AND WESTON ARE FOOLS.

Though the actual number is not known of how many prisoners are ex-servicemen then the true figure will be around 14 %.

http://ravingsfromtheblogdweller.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/ptsd-contributing-to-8500-ex-servicemen-in-british-jails/

1 in 4 of the homeless are ex-servicemen ;

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/EstateAndEnvironment/SupportingHomelessExservicemen.htm

Yet who does Mcnab aim his fire on - the BNP.

Brilliant.

They should have made him a general.

He seems to have the brains for it.

Then we have Weston with his worry about the image of Churchill on BNP leaflets.

In the middle of a war where British troops are being slaughtered because the MOD hasnt got enough troops to move soldiers and avoid them hitting IED’s and helicopters cannot evacuate the wounded , Weston is worrying about BNP leaflets.

My god, they should be ashamed of themselves.

With themselves so obviously selling themselves to the Tories for political gain and the promise of Ermine to replace the gold braid, then this is a disgusting, amoral, sick political Tory stunt.

I am appalled and disgusted by them all.

This is a tory led joke campaign run by tory toffs in Nothing British About The BNP - which is a tory front group run by two tory toffs and from the Conservativehome office.

These are simply people who are being lined up to sit with the Tories in the House of Lords.

This attack on the BNP is a Rupert Murdoch The Times sponsored attempt to bolster the Tories - the Tory Party by the way that supplied weapons to Saddam Hussein and various other tyrants and criminals around the world when they were in power.

The attack on the BNP is I suspect a smoke screen to prepare the way for an attack on Iran by Israel, as Murdoch needs the Tories in power and Blair as President of the EU in order to ensure Britain is 100 % on board with the attack.

With Blair as President of the EU and the Tories as slavish to the US and media as Blair and the Labour government - then the war is guaranteed to go ahead.

These generals are a disgrace.

They can be condemned on two grounds ;

1) They stayed silent during the lead up to the Iraq and Afghanistan War, allowed British troops to fight in an illegal war and allowed British troops to go to war unequipped and with second rate kit.

That was a dereliction of their duty and a betrayal of every British soldier sent to fight in the FIVE wars started by Blair and New Labour.

If they had resigned before the war went ahead then perhaps we could have avoided the Iraq War abd Afghan invasions, but they didnt.

Therefore they stand accused of a dereliction of duty.

2) That whilst the Afghanistan War is still going on, and British troops dying day after they have chosen to attack the BNP instead of demanding an immediate end to the Afghanistan war and the recall of all British troops to the UK.

They have not done this, instead they attack the BNP who has never sent any British troops to die in illegal foreign wars.

This is also a cowardly dereliction of their duty to the soldiers they profess to represent and 'care' for.

If they truly cared for their troops then they would demand the immediate return to Britain of all British troops from Afghanistan on the grounds that the war in Afghanistan is unwinnable, that we went to war for oil in Iraq and to protect oil and gas pipelines in Afghanistan, that the troops are under equipped and that lack of air support and helicopters has enabled the Taliban to slaughter our troops with IED's, that you cannot export and impose democracy by force and that the British troops wounded in the war have been let down with their medical care in the UK, had their benefits stolen from them by the Labour government and that with a quarter of the people in prisons being ex-servicemen many suffering from PTSD and a quarter of the homeless on our streets being ex-servicemen that British society and successive British government have betrayed our troops.

But they wont say that.

They wont say it because its against tory policy.

This is because they are nothing more than Tory stooges using their war medals to get peerages from a future Tory government.

They attack the BNP but have not attacked the Labour government or the Tories for what they did in the past and what they will do once elected into power.

These generals are a disgrace.

1 in 4 prisoners in British prisons is an ex-serviceman.

1 in 4 homeless people are ex-servicemen.

The generals have served their entire careers the governments that used British troops for their own ends and then dumped into society with PTSD and disabilities and then let them slip into drug abuse, alcoholism, homelessness and prisons.

This is how the Tories and Labour take care of veterans - they abandon them.

These generals were part of the government that sent us into the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars, and now they want to lecture us on their morality and decency.

They lost the right to lecture anyone when they refused to resign their commissions before the start of the Iraq War or when, like Jackson, they collaborated with Tony Blair in his illegal wars in the Balkans - such as when the SAS were ordered by men like him to train the KLA terrorist groups that were involved in the massacre of innocent men, women and serbian children.

These people are now politicians.

The moment they allowed themselves to get involved in politics then they politicised themselves and their opinions.

This is simply the establishment on the attack against the BNP in order to divert attention from the crimes of New Labour and to support the Tory Party.

Oh how they must fear the BNP.

The attacks on us are the greatest validation.

This Nothing British About The BNP campaign is a Tory led campaign being promoted by the Tory Press.

These are not patriots.

These are the people who serve a political party, the Tories, that supplied Saddam Hussein with chemical weapons plants and weapons that were used to murder British troops in the Iraq War is scandalous.

Whilst this campaign has been launched in the midst of the Afghanistan War and on the eve of the attack on Iran and they have stayed silent and not demanded the end to Afghan war and that we do not go to war with Iran is a total disgrace.

The fact that the generals and the others are supporting the Tories is a total disgrace.

They should be ashamed of themselves.

I hold the politicians, the government and the generals in contempt not British troops.

I hold Mcnab and Weston in contempt for their cowardice and stupidity in attacking the BNP and because they chose and still choose to remain silent about the betrayal of British troops by successive British governments who have abandoned British soldiers to homelessness and poverty.

Mcnab and Weston attack the BNP but stay silent about the Afghanistan war, the Tories who sold weapons to Saddam Hussein and the Labour Party that sent British soldiers to die in an illegal war for Iraqi oil.

It appears that Simon Weston did raise the issue of faulty kit before the war began but that is irrelevant to his idiotic attack on the BNP today - the fact remains that he is wasting his time by attacking the BNP, and he is merely obfuscating the real issues even though British troops are being slaughtered day in and day out in Afghanistan, for tory advantage.

Simon Weston has not attacked the government for starting the war, he has not attacked both Labour and Tory governments over the issue of 1 in 4 of the homeless being ex-servicemen and women, he has not attacked the tories for arming Saddam Hussein with the weapons that killed British soldiers and gassed the Kurds. He doesnt attack the Labour government for failing to ensure we have enough helicopters and armoured cars.

No. In the midst of the slaughter in Iraq and Afghanistan Weston attacks the BNP for putting Churchills image on a leaflet.

He is therefore either a tory stooge or an idiot.

I hold the Tory Toy Generals and the Tory Rent a Heroes like McNab and Weston in contempt who allow themselves to be used by the Tory front group Nothing British About the BNP to attack the BNP over the pathetic issue of pictures of Churchill on BNP leaflets, and yet who are wasting their time attacking the BNP whilst the Afghan War still wages on and they are attacking the BNP instead of attacking the Tory and Labour governments that caused the the lack of equipment and deaths.

It appears that Simon Weston was policitised by the Tories in 2008 when he agreed to sit alongside Fredrick Forsyth on some Tory policy unit ;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7276924.stm

So Weston is just another Tory stooge using his medals to benefit the Tories, even though the Tories were the party that allowed British arms companies to sell weapons to Iraq and Saddam Hussein which were then used to kill British troops.

Whilst British troops are dying for a corrupt, vote rigging US puppet government and to defend the wealth of US oil corporations and their pipelines in Afghanistan, Simon Weston is attacking the BNP.

He doesnt attack the links the Tory Party has with Baroness Neville Jones who was a governor of the BBC, who sat as a member of the intelligence bodies that drafted up the dodgy dossier and who also was a director of the arms companies that sold weapons to Saddam and who profited from the Iraq War ;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Neville-Jones,_Baroness_Neville-Jones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Intelligence_Committee_%28UK%29#Role_in_the_Iraq_dossier

Baroness Jones was employed by Qinitiq when it was run by THE CARLYSLE GROUP which has George Bush's father as a director ;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/carlyle-quits-qinetiq-with-163240m-profit-435700.html

But no comment from Weston about that. No comment from him about a Tory who is up to her neck in the blood of the Iraq War.


I see this attack on the BNP as a sick political stunt.

I am appalled and disgusted by the generals and McNab and Weston.

Shame on them.

Shame on them all.

Andy McNab and the BNP

It is never good publicity to be attacked by a bona fide war hero.

Coming from a family with many members who served in World War 2 such as my uncles Jessie and Lloyd Holmes, twin brothers, who were captured at the Fall of Singapore February 15th 1942 and who were held in various concentration camps and death camps including at Selarang Barracks near Changi Prison and also an uncle who fought in Burma, I have seen the toll that war wears into men.

My great uncle Lloyd died six months after returning home to Britain at the end of the war due to the mental and physical torture inflicted upon him by the Japanese guards and his ordeal.

I stood alongside men like him a few years ago when the Japanese Emperor paraded down the Mall in London, where I turned my back on him as a sign of protest for the lack of a full apology from the Japanese monarchy in whose name the cruelty was undertaken. A tiny act of thanks to men like my uncles for such a massive sacrifice.

My grandfather was in the Royal Navy, torpedoed twice and survived and then was wounded in a convoy in the pacific by a Japanese Kamikaze attack and then spent months in Baltimore being treated for his injuries, including the loss of an eye, two fingers and a severe wound in the chest.

My Great uncle, my Grandmothers brother, was in Burma and fought alongside the Gurkhas. His wife used to find him standing in the kitchen in the dark in the middle of the night washing himself down in the sink. She knew not to ask. He was washing the blood from his hands and face and arms whose presence forever haunted him, the blood that had squirted out as he cut the throats of Japanese soldiers in the dark. That was Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder before it was given a name.

I have never fought in a war. I have never been in the armed services, but coming from a family where every generation, except my father and I, had served in the military I have been taught to respect the military and military personnel.

Friends of mine are presently fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Lads I know half my age are training to go right now.

BNP members serve, and have served in both wars, and in every war where veterans are still alive. A chap I knew in the BNP served as a Lancaster Bomber squadron leader.

In fact, the BNP probably contains more ex-servicemen than most other political parties in relation to proportion of membership.

Therefore the words of Andy McNabb are particularly stinging ;

" Andy McNab has told the BNP, “give me my books back”.

The ultimatum comes after Nick Griffin announced that signed copies of Brute Force and Seven Troop would be auctioned to raise money for Help for Heroes.

McNab – ex-SAS hardman, Gulf War veteran and best-selling author – told Nothing British, “When someone called me to say that the BNP was using one of my books in a publicity stunt, I was sick to the stomach. I served with men of all colours and from many nationalities. They were all equal to me. That’s what the army teaches you. Nick Griffin thinks differently. He thinks the British Army should be for whites-only. He thinks heroes like Johnson Beharry, our only living VC, should be sent back to Grenada.

“He doesn’t understand that what makes the British Army great, and what makes this country great. It’s the way we draw together people from all around the world and give them ideals worth believing in: tolerance, fairness, decency, looking out for the little guy. It’s the British way of doing things. That’s why I’ve asked for my books back. Because I don’t want anything to help the BNP promote their poisonous politics of segregation and hatred.”

Harsh words indeed, and coming from a man like Andy McNab they carry great weight, and therefore they must be responded too.

First all lets deal with the issue of the books.

I suggest the BNP still raffle the books and the money donated and raised go straight to the Help For Heroes charity. Then Andy McNab, a succesful author, should be offered a chance to match the figure of money raised by BNP donations and procure the books from the BNP member who wins the raffle and that Andy McNab then donates his money straight to the Help For Heroes charity thereby ensuring they get his money as well as the money raised by the raffle.

That way Andy McNab gets his book back, the charity gains from the money raised by the BNP raffle and the charity also has the bonus of the money from Andy McNab also coming into its coffers.

I am sure Mr. McNab would agree to such a plan, seeing as he gets his books back and the charity doubles its money.

A few thousand pounds is nothing to a successful author like Mr. McNab and as the charity assists the rehabilitation of wounded soldiers, this is something that Mr. McNab would obviously wish to support.

In relation to the issues raised by Mr. McNab, well I cant speak for Nick Griffin but I can tell him what I believe the BNP stands for as regards the British military.

Under a BNP government there would be no British soldiers dying in Iraq and Afghanistan.

There would be no young British men and women returning home blinded, limbless and maimed.

This because we would not have sent them to fight a war for oil in Iraq and oil pipelines in Afghanistan.

The national security we wish to maintain and secure is based within the home front, and has no part in the oil imperialism of the US, UK and the global oil corporations.

Therefore the same men and women that Andy McNab would have served alongside would not be dying today. They would be home with their families, where they belong.

Andy McNab served alongside brave men of all races who wore uniform of the Britain. All who volunteer to serve our nation deserve honour. Yet it is the Labour government with the blessing of the Tories that sent them to war without the right kit, with sub standard equipment, and then when they returned abandoned many of them to homelessness whilst going to court to cut from other wounded soldiers their disability payments.

It is the Labour government that stopped the Gurkhas coming into the UK, not the BNP.

Those of all nationalities who volunteer for service deserve our respect, but these men are volunteers who signed onto the British military knowing that they would not be offered citizenship in the UK. That is the way it has always been and the way it is right now. The foreign recruits in the military are not offered a ' French Foreign Legion deal' where they are given British citizenship after a period of contractual military service - it is a job, and that’s it.

If service in the British army equated to a right to citizenship and to live in Britain then this would be an absurdity.

It does not, and it never has.

Whilst in the British army each man of every nation demands equal respect, and it could be no other way. Without such discipline and efficiency then a modern, functional army could not exist or operate.

The BNP does not think the army should be 'whites only' - the BNP believes that as much as possible the British army should rely on well trained British troops with British citizenship. The numbers of foreign troops allowed in the British army is pegged at 10 % of the total, though we believe this should be reduced. A British Army that fights around the world requires troops from around the world, a British Army that defends the home front needs no foreign volunteers other than regiments such as the Gurkhas.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article589974.ece

As quoted in the above Times article, “ “It is after all supposed to be the British Army, not the Commonwealth Army,” one defence source said. “

As the BNP is anti-globalist, then our global military role must be replaced by a national defence role. The era where British politicians in the cosy confines of the Houses of Commons send British troops to die in foreign wars will be over when the BNP gets into power. No more Wars for Oil disguised as ‘Moral Imperialism’.


In fact nations such as South Africa are proposing new laws that will effectively strip citizenship rights from South African volunteers to the British Army, and therefore we must start to recruit more British troops into the military and not rely on foreign volunteers simply in order to ensure ;

1) we do not have a choice because volunteer numbers from outside Britain will drop when such laws are enacted.

2) the future emphasis of the British military will be to defend the home front, and therefore a national based military force ensuring British national security will need to be created. The BNP do not intend this nation to get involved in any more globalist interventions in the guise of some inane moral principle of interventionism. Therefore less foreign troops will be required anyway.

http://www.afrika.no/Detailed/10790.html

Even the Gurkhas may be prohibited from joining the British Army in the near future as the Communist government of Nepal wishes to pass laws that prohibits Nepalese citizens joining foreign armies such as the British Army ;

http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/gurkhas-face-ban-from-british-army-report/

As for Johnson Beharry, he was a volunteer soldier from Grenada. His injuries require he remains in the UK for treatment and the BNP would never remove decorated war heroes such as him who deserve a home amongst us. He is loyal to Britain, so we are loyal to him.

There are millions of terrorists, foreign criminals, colonists, bogus asylum seekers, sex slavers, gun smugglers and gangsters in this country who we will deport when we get the chances - we will never deport men such as Johnson Beharry. To say we would is utter nonsense.

What makes the British Army great, and what makes this country great is when we all come together to benefit our nation.

But that doesnt mean we should forget the fact this is Britain and it is the British Army.

Andy Mcnab believes we should act as a 'moral beacon' for the world standing for 'tolerance, fairness, decency, looking out for the little guy'. Fine words, but meaningless in relation to military strategy and the demands of a 21st century British army. We can no longer draw people into the army from all around the world for the reasons explained above. The world has changed.

We need to look out for own people, our own country and our way of life. These are all under attack from colonists into this country who also use the rhetoric of liberalism as a way to remove the rights of the majority and replace them with the dictates of minorities. Such endless surrender of our liberties to liberalism and its cant must be resisted. Political correctness kills.

The idea that Britain should be perpetually 'looking out for the little guy' is how we got into bombing Serbia, Iraq and Afghanistan. This was the rhetoric of Tony Blair, with his agenda of 'moral warfare' that led us into those wars. The problem is such rhetoric eventually has to be backed up with bullets and bombs, and people die, both innocent civilians and British soldiers.

As the poet William Blake wrote, 'The road to hell is paved with good intentions'.

Regardless of whether we wish too or not, such rhetoric of moral interventionism has resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in Iraq and hundreds of British troops and thousands of American dead.

The BNP believe that the price of such moral imperialism paid in the lives of British soldiers is too much.

We are not the worlds policeman or social worker.

Nor should we be the worlds arm dealer.

One of the reasons why Andy McNab was sent to fight in the first Iraq War was because the Tory government that sent him to war had also been secretly, along with the US, been arming Saddam Hussein.

http://www.cambridgeclarion.org/books/preface_leigh_1993.html

The same Conservative government that sent Andy McNab to war also prosecuted innocent men in the Matrix Churchill trial. The Conservative government put its own political interests before the interests of justice and were even prepared to send innocent men to jail ;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms-to-Iraq

Therefore the war that Mcnab fought in, and was tortured by Saddam Husseins henchmen, was based on Britain, and British arms companies, disarming a tyrant that it had been secretly arming and assisting for decades with British weapons.

British soldiers in Iraq were killed with British weapons sold to Saddam Hussein by British arms companies with the blessing of both Labour and Conservative governments.

To have a cheap shot at the BNP about the utterly irrelevant issue of ‘racism‘, whilst the war criminals and war profiteers that armed Saddam Hussein remain unpunished and still fund the Conservative Party coffers, is frankly perverse.

These examples of greed, criminality and profiteering are also the very ’ideals’ of those British politicians and political parties that Andy McNab supports and endorses - the sick, corrupt and criminal ideals of a political system and Establishment politicians motivated solely by the profit margin and never principles of morality. These are the values of the Labour Party and the Conservative Party that have misruled our nation for generations.

As for the 'Nothing British About the BNP' blog site - this site is run by Tim Montgomerie and James Bethell of ConservativeHome, two activists of the same party that once sold Saddm Hussein the weapons that killed your comrades.

Their party is a party of war profiteers and war criminals, you should be ashamed in aiding them. The Conservative Party voted for both the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, their hands are as bloody as Tony 'The Butcher' Blair and his lickspittle lackey Gordon Brown.

Andy, you can have your books back.

Just match the money made by the BNP raffle, donate it to the Hope for Heroes charity and they are yours.

Next time you want to know about the BNP just ask. The next time you want to write fiction, then put it in your books.