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Wednesday, 14 October 2009

More on the AIDS Theory re chimps and SIV

THE CHIMP CONNECTION ;

1) The chimps caught by Ivanov were from Cameroon as confirmed in his writings

2) This means they probably contained the SIV virus as about 35 % of chimps have SIV in Cameroon

3) The chimps were caught and used by Ivanov just before the period of the suspected transmission into humans around 1930 - Ivanov was doing his experiments in 1927

4)Under French Law that applied to french colonies such as Conakry in the 1920's and 1930's contraception and abortion were banned, thereby ensuring that any female prostitute paid by Ivanov to be inseminated with SIV infected chimp would pass the infection on and create a 'pool' of human beings for the HIV 1 infection to survive and be transmitted on

5) Ivanov had stated many times he wanted to inseminate women with chimp sperm and that was the primary focus of his research projects both in Africa and Russia

6) Ivanov was ORDERED by Stalin to create ape-human hybrids and could not refuse such an order - the funding he was provided was vast, more than required for experiments simply on chimps.

7) Ivanov applied for and was granted permission to inseminate African women with chimp sperm by the French colonial adminstration

8) That Ivanov paid thousands of dollars to both male and FEMALE AFRICAN volunteers in his experiments, so why pay women - for what services other than insemination

9) The payments made were vast, the equivalent of tens of thousands of pounds today, so these women were being paid a lot of money for their services

10) We know that in some reports Ivanov confirmed that he tried to inseminate African females and that they did not get pregnant - but we have to ask is 'was SIV transmitted and became HIV during these experiments'. The impregnation experiments may have failed, but they would have transmitted the SIV virus.

11) The French government gave him express permission to inseminate African women but outside the hospital where he was working - in other words, he had to keep it quiet and low key. Therefore we know that he asked to do so and was given permission to do so.

12) That the idea that Ivanov would go to Africa and not inseminate African women, which had been the primary focus of his research both before the trip and after it when he returned to Russia where he intended to inseminate Russian women, is an unlikely one - he had to do as Stalin ordered.

13) The chimps he caught and used in the insemination experiments were sick and almost all died after a short time - and this sickness was probably CHIMP SIV - and thereby provides evidence for the contention that the chimps were sick with SIV before they were used in the experiments and hence able to have passed the SIV infection on during the experiments

14) That the description of the deaths of the chimps in Russia in Ivanovs writings suggest classic Chimp SIV symptoms

15) That chimp SIV is spread via chimp semen and sexual fluids

16) Therefore that SIV in chimp semen inseminated into an human female could have passed into her body, as many viruses are known to be able to easily transfer between species

17) The SIV could have been absorbed through the membrane of the female vagina

18) That a prostitute infected with SIV that became HIV 1 and who then spread the infection into a wider pool of clients is far more likely as a carrier / transmitter of HIV 1 than the present 'Bushmeat / Cut Theory'.

19) That the HIV 1 virus if found only in rare individuals infected via a cut from bushmeat, would probaly not have transmitted out of that person or area - especially if they were hunters in the forest, married etc etc. The spread of HIV 1 is most common even today in prostitutes and was spread via prostitutes in Africa - therefore Occams Razor requires the prostitute idea as a the source / storage / transmitter of the HIV 1 virus to be the most likely scenario.

20) That the surival of the virus from 1930 to the present suggests that a pool of people had to be storing and spreading the virus generation after generation and this would have to be prostitutes.









http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5012268.stm


The origin of HIV has been found in wild chimpanzees living in southern Cameroon, researchers report.

A virus called SIVcpz (Simian Immunodeficiency Virus from chimps) was thought to be the source, but had only been found in a few captive animals.

Now, an international team of scientists has identified a natural reservoir of SIVcpz in animals living in the wild.

The findings are to be published in Science magazine.

All discoveries which relate to the history and origins of HIV could be of value to the vital work being carried out by scientists in developing a HIV vaccine

Yusef Azad, National Aids Trust

It is thought that people hunting chimpanzees first contracted the virus - and that cases were first seen in Kinshasa, in the Democratic Republic of Congo - the nearest urban area - in 1930.

Scientists believe the rareness of cases - and the fact that symptoms of Aids differ significantly between individuals - explains why it was another 50 years before the virus was named.

This team of researchers, including experts from the universities of Nottingham, Montpellier and Alabama, have been working for a decade to identify the source of HIV.

While SIVcpz was only identified in captive animals, the possibility remained that yet another species could be the natural reservoir of both HIV and SIVcpz.

Gene tests

It had only been possible to detect SIVcpz using blood test - which meant that only captive animals could be studied.

This study, carried out alongside experts from the Project Prevention du Sida au Cameroun (PRESICA) in Cameroon, involved analysing chimpanzee faeces, collected from the forest floor in remote jungle areas.


The researchers went into the jungles of Cameroon

This was useful because University of Alabama at Birmingham researchers had been able to determine the genetic sequences of the chimpanzee viruses - which could then be searched for in the faecal samples.

Lab tests detected SIVcpz specific antibodies and genetic information linked to the virus in up to 35% of chimpanzees in some groups.

All of the data were then sent to the University of Nottingham for analysis, which revealed the extremely close genetic relationship between some of the samples and strains of HIV.

Chimpanzees in south-east Cameroon were found to have the viruses most similar to the form of HIV that has spread throughout the world.

The researchers say that, as well as solving the mystery about the origin of the virus, the findings open up avenues for future research.

But SIVcpz has not been found to cause any Aids-like illnesses in chimpanzees, so researchers are investigating why the animals do not suffer any symptoms, when humans - who are so genetically similar - do.

Close relation

Paul Sharp, professor of genetics at the University of Nottingham said: "It is likely that the jump between chimps and humans occurred in south-east Cameroon - and that virus then spread across the world.

"When you consider that HIV probably originated more than 75 years ago, it is most unlikely that there are any viruses out there that will prove to be more closely related to the human virus."

He said the team were currently working to understand if the genetic differences between SIVcpz and HIV evolved as a response to the species jump.

Keith Alcorn of Aidsmap said: "The researchers have pinned down a very specific location where they believe the precursor of HIV came from.

"But there are vast areas of west Africa where other forms of SIVcpz lineages exist, and the possibility remains for human infection.

Yusef Azad, policy director of the National Aids Trust said: "This research is interesting as all discoveries which relate to the history and origins of HIV could be of value to the vital work being carried out by scientists in developing a HIV vaccine."





http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/05/060525-aids-chimps.html

James Owen
for National Geographic News

May 25, 2006
Chimpanzees living in dense jungles in Africa have been confirmed as the probable source of the HIV virus which caused the human AIDS pandemic.

Researchers have identified simian immunodeficiency virus (SIV) in wild apes for the first time. The virus, which at some point jumped to humans as human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), has been found in chimpanzees in Cameroon, west-central Africa. (Cameroon map and profile)


Scientists have long suspected that HIV had its in origins in wild chimp populations. But previously SIV had been found only in some captive chimps.

The discovery in wild chimps was made by an international research team, which detected SIV antibodies in chimpanzee feces gathered from forests.

The virus was found in chimpanzees in southeastern Cameroon, where SIV infection rates were as high as 35 percent in some chimp populations.

Further genetic analysis linked these chimps to the source of the main strain of HIV-1, the most prevalent form of HIV. The team's findings are to be published tomorrow in the journal Science.

The Cameroonian chimps showed a diversity of SIV strains, with some twice as similar to human HIV strains as any found in captive apes, says study team member Beatrice Hahn, a professor of medicine at the University of Alabama at Birmingham.

"Two clusters [of SIV strains] were very closely related to human strains," she added.

These human strains belong to the M group of HIV-1, the group which has spread among humans worldwide.

The SIV clusters were restricted to communities of the chimpanzee subspecies Pan troglodytes troglodytes.

Origins of AIDS

The team says the findings provide the clearest picture yet of the 70-year-old origins of the current human AIDS pandemic.

"We think it's likely that the cross-species transmission took place locally" in the Cameroon region, Hahn said.

Hunters in the region who caught and ate chimps were probably the first to contract HIV, she adds. (See a photo of a Cameroonian family preparing a meal of bush meat.)


"Based on what we know about the biology of these viruses, you need to be exposed to infectious blood or body fluids," she said. "You don't get it by petting a chimp."

From southeastern Cameroon the virus appears then to have spread south via the Sangha and Congo Rivers.

"Eventually the virus ended up in a major metropolitan area, which would either be Kinshasa [Democratic Republic of the Congo] or Brazzaville [Republic of the Congo]," Hahn added. "That's where we believe the AIDS pandemic really started."

Chimps in turn are thought to have picked up SIV by eating infected monkeys.

A study published in 2003 in Science suggested a chimp strain of SIV arose through repeated transmissions and recombination of similar viruses found in red-capped mangabeys and greater spot-nosed monkeys. (Read a story about this study.)

This previous research was led by Paul Sharp of the Institute of Genetics at the University of Nottingham in England.

"We now know there are more than 30 species of monkeys across Africa which have their own forms of SIVs," said Sharp, who was also involved with the new study.

Ape Infection

Chimps, however, are the only apes known to be infected.

"The chimp virus is a mosaic of viruses that infect prey monkeys," the University of Alabama's Hahn said. "Chimps had to eat these monkeys first but they have certainly had their infection a lot longer than humans."

She says the diversity of new SIV strains detected in Cameroon chimps raises the possibility that the animals could pass on new types of HIV infection to humans.

This, says Hahn, could hinder the global fight against AIDS.

"Cross-species transmissions could have already occurred and may have gone unrecognized," she added.

Hahn says it's unlikely that further, recently acquired chimp infections have led to AIDS epidemics in humans. But such transmissions could undermine the effectiveness of AIDS vaccines currently under development.

"If we ever had a vaccine that worked and you then bring in a new virus that's 30 or 40 percent different, that's probably not a good thing," she said.

"It might be much more difficult to detect one of these other chimp viruses if it jumped into humans," the University of Nottingham's Sharp added.

On the other hand, further studies of wild chimp populations could help in finding new treatments for AIDS sufferers, Sharp says.

"As far as we know, the chimps don't get any type of AIDS-like disease," he said. "That's part of the reason for being very interested in the infection of chimps, because chimps and humans are very similar genetically."






http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/1999-06/930401929.Vi.r.html


The long answer is that there are currently two very different immunodeficiency viruses which infect humans and cause AIDS. The most common is HIV-1, which is believed to have come from chimpanzees. Three groups of HIV-1, the M, N and O goups probably represent three different chimpanzee to human transmission events. Any of these viruses is called SIV-CPZ if it is isolated from a chimpanzee, and HIV-1 if it is isolated from a human. The second, much less common worldwide, is HIV-2, which came from sooty mangabeys. HIV-2 also has several different groups which are likely to have been derived from seperate sooty mangabey to human transmissions.




http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/07/090722-chimps-aids.html

For the first time, and in a surprise to scientists, chimps have been found infected with what is essentially AIDS, a new study says.

The monkey and ape equivalent of HIV—simian immunodeficiency virus, or SIV—has long been thought to be harmless in the animals, never developing into a lethal AIDS equivalent.

Wild, SIV-positive chimps in Africa, the researchers found, are 10 to 16 times more likely to die in a given year than uninfected chimps—giving conservationists one more worry in the struggle to save already at-risk ape and monkey species.

Past evidence had supported the view that SIV doesn't lead to a lethal condition in apes and monkeys, explained AIDS researcher Daniel Douek of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

But the study authors "have now conclusively challenged this notion," said Douek, who was not involved in the new research.

(Related: "HIV-Like Virus Found in Gorillas.")

SIV is considered the source of human immunodeficiency virus, or HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. A mutated form of SIV, HIV is thought to have jumped from chimps to humans, perhaps in the late 1800s.

Disease as Ape-Extinction Threat

The study began in 2004 "because of global worries about disease being a major conservation concern for apes," said study co-author Elizabeth Lonsdorf, a primatologist at the Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago.

At Gombe Stream National Park in Tanzania—made famous by Jane Goodall—researchers collected observational data and, from chimps that had died, tissue samples.

Feces and urine tests pinpointed which living chimps were SIV positive. SIV is spread via bodily fluids, during sexual contact and probably during birth, Lonsdorf said. The virus may also spread through biting and fight wounds, she added—"which will be the topic of further study over the next several years."

At the outset of the study, there was little sense that anything was wrong with the SIV-positive chimps, said Lonsdorf, a former National Geographic Society emerging explorer, who has spent considerable time at Gombe. (The Society owns National Geographic News.)

Then the researchers began noticing the much higher death rate among the SIV-positive chimpanzees. And infected females, it turned out, were much less likely to give birth. When they did, their babies had a very low chance of survival.

Other symptoms of the AIDS-like syndrome remain unknown, though preliminary results suggest weight loss and lethargy may be among the side effects. "Again, this will be the focus of intensive study over the next several years, since we just discovered the death hazard," Lonsdorf said.


Searching for the culprit, veterinary pathologist Karen Terio, looked at tissue samples from an SIV-positive female chimpanzee that had died at Gombe.

"As I was looking through her tissues I was completely taken aback," said Terio, also a co-author of the study, published today in the journal Nature.

"I couldn't believe what I was seeing, as the tissue changes looked just like those of AIDS. I kept looking for another reason and couldn't find one. ... " recalled Terio, of the University of Illinois.

Study co-author Dominic Travis remains cautious.

"We don't really know how bad this is in Gombe, let alone if or how it happens elsewhere," said Travis, a veterinary epidemiologist at the Lincoln Park Zoo.

Hope for Fighting AIDS in Humans?

The researchers are optimistic that their potentially dispiriting study could hold blessings in disguise, in the form of increased funding for ape-health research—or potential medical advances for humans.

(Also see "Search for a Cure: AIDS Turns 20" from National Geographic magazine.)

"We can learn a lot about disease mechanisms by studying the same disease in different species," the University of Illinois's Terio said.

Study leader Beatrice Hahn, of the University of Alabama, added, "Chimps may be one [evolutionary] step ahead of us humans in managing the disease. And figuring out how they deal with their infection may ultimately help people infected with HIV."


















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Tuesday, 13 October 2009

MY AIDS THEORY CONFIRMED ?

http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract;jsessionid=7A152A41F169BA47E1BC89A85F5C472B.tomcat1?fromPage=online&aid=124129


This article confirms that Ivanov got some of his chimps in his experiment from German Cameroon.

I cant access the full article, but the fact that in at least one of his experiments the chimps came from Cameroon proves that the theory of infected chimp sperm transmission via Ivanov insemination attempts with prostitutes is a real theory.


Also secret documents in the Kremlin reveal that Ivanov DID INSEMINATE AFRICAN WOMEN WITH CHIMP SPERM IN WEST AFRICA ;


http://www.ligali.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=1015

...In 1927, the Russian émigré newspaper 'Russkoye Vremya' published articles concerning shocking experiments in which Ivanov allegedly tried to artificially inseminate human and ape females with the other species’ sperm. Few people, however, believed these reports. Many in the West at the time were supporting the “progressive” Soviet Republic. Proof came after the fall of the Soviet Union, according to Alexander Potapov, who published his research in ''Na Grani nevozhmozhnogo" newspaper (issue 335/4, 2004). A document was discovered in the state archives of the Russian Federation reporting the findings of a special commission created in 1929 to evaluate Ivanov’s proposed anthropoid interspecies hybridization experiments. These experiments were considered to be of “great scientific importance,” and the report indicated that they were to be continued in the Sukhumi Monkey Colony, a Soviet primate center. The hybridization experiments (the artificial insemination of human females by anthropoid sperm) were to be conducted only with the written agreement of the female. She would accept the risk and obey the required strict isolation regime. The experiments were to be conducted with all necessary safeguards, including preclusion of natural insemination. The trials were to be conducted on as many human females as possible, but in no case, fewer than five. According to Potapov, the Bolshevik elite wanted to destroy the belief in God, and subject nature to serve the new Soviet Man.

http://www.fatemag.com/issues/2000s/2005-04article1a.html


http://news.scotsman.com/scitech?articleid=4029006

Ivanov was sent to French West Africa and on 28 February, 1927, he wrapped two female chimps in nets and inseminated them with sperm from a local man. On 25 June, he inseminated another chimp with human sperm, this time using a special cage and knocking her out with ethyl chloride.

None of the three became pregnant, and at that point he changed tack. He reportedly went on to ask the authorities whether he could, instead, inseminate native women with the sperm of a dead male chimpanzee in a local hospital.

He even suggested the experiment could be carried out without the women's knowledge because he was concerned they would resist.

According to records, the authorities refused permission because the studies would be taking place in a hospital.

Instead they suggested the procedure could be done outside, where no regulations existed, but Ivanov was apparently offended, believing his research should take place in a clinical setting.

It is believed that Ivanov left Africa with a number of primates and went to the Soviet Republic of Georgia.

There, it is thought he worked in a government primate station, where rumour has it he attempted to arrange further experiments on the artificial insemination of women volunteers. No evidence exists that these experiments actually took place.





Also the Russian article reveals that the chimps that Ivanov brought back with him to Russia from West Africa were sick - THEY HAD CHIMP HIV !

The died of TB and wasting away - classic HIV symptoms.

Therefore the human females he paid to have chimp sperm inseminations WERE INFECTED WITH HIV FROM THE CHIMPS !

This proves the theory is correct.

I have discovered how HIV was transmitted from chimps to humans.


I have also discovered more information that confirms ;


1) That the chimps used in the Ivanov experiments in West Africa were from Cameroon

2) That Ivanov did inseminate African women with chimp sperm and paid them for it, probably prostitutes

3) That the chimps used in the experiment were taken to Russia and later died from Tuberculosis and a wasting disease that was probably HIV showing that the virus was transmitted to the women





I guess that now makes me famous.

If you are interested in publicising this theory, then just please credit me when due.


Here are the various facts which prove the theory ;

1) Ivanov was in West Africa in 1927 undertaking Chimp-Human Hybrid experiments.

2) The chimps used in the Ivanov experiments came from Cameroon

3) The HIV infection was present in chimps in Cameroon in the 1920's

4) That the estimated date when Chimp HIV infected humans via transmission was 1930

5) That the location of the transmission from chimps to humans was West Africa

6) That Ivanov did pay African females probably prostitutes, or forced them, to be inseminated with chimp semen. The declassified documents from the Kremlin reveal that Ivanov paid prostitutes to be inseminated with chimp semen and also suggest that African women were drugged by Ivanov and then Ivanov directly assisted in their rape by chimps who were forced to ejaculate inside the women.

7) That Ivanov went to West Africa with the intention to inseminate African women with chimp sperm.

8) That Stalin paid him $200,000 dollars to pay for the programme and ordered him to use African women for insemination

9) That Ivanov did pay African women for them being inseminated and that none of the women got pregnant

10) That Chimp HIV can be transmitted via chimp sperm into HIV in humans

11) That the chimps he used in the experiment were returned to Russia and died of what sound like HIV related diseases, such as TB and wasting diseases, as the research papers on Ivanov reveal. These are classic chimp HIV symptoms.

12) That Arvid Noe contacted HIV in West Africa from prostitutes

13) That prostitutes had kept the virus alive by sexual contact with clients since the first infection in the prostitutes used by Ivanov.

14) That this theory is more likely in relation to transmission requirements for the virus to enter a human being than the 'Bushmeat / Cut ' theory which presently dominates the debate on the origins of HIV 1 in human beings.

15) That the virus could not have been kept alive in human beings unless it was within sexually active groups within West Africa eg prostitutes and therefore the sexual transmission that was required to keep human HIV 1 alive until it was contacted by Arvid Noe and then the later non-Africans who caught the virus from having sex with Africans in West Africa was present.


No-one else anywhere on the internet has even suggested any of the above facts and theories, let alone linked the entire thing together.

Therefore I have to take credit for 'Ilya Ivanov - The Father of Aids Theory'

The Father of AID's Theory is my theory.


















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Did Ilya Ivanov Cause AIDS ?

On May 25, 2006 scientists stated that they have pinpointed the origin of the AIDS virus. It all started in southern Cameroon in West Central Africa around 1930, according to a study published online by the journal Science. The virus that started the global pandemic --- recognized 25 years ago next week --- passed from chimps to humans in that area.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5450391


The reservoir of the ancestral virus still exists among chimpanzee communities in the same area of Cameroon.

I think I may have discovered how the virus passed into humans from apes.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilya_Ivanovich_Ivanov_(biologist)


Ilya Ivanovich Ivanov (Russian: Илья Иванович Иванов, August 1 [O.S. July 20] 1870-March 20, 1932?) was a Russian and Soviet biologist who specialized in the field of artificial insemination and the interspecific hybridization of animals. He was involved in controversial attempts to create a human-ape hybrid.

The most controversial of Ivanov's studies was his attempt to create a human-ape hybrid.[1] As early as 1910 he had given a presentation to the World Congress of Zoologists in Graz in which he described the possibility of obtaining such a hybrid through artificial insemination.

In 1924, while working at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, Ivanov obtained permission from the Institute's directors to use its experimental primate station in Kindia, French Guinea, for such an experiment. Ivanov attempted to gain backing for his project from the Soviet government. He dispatched letters to the People's Commissar on Education and Science Anatoliy Vasilievich Lunacharsky and to other officials. Ivanov's proposal finally sparked the interest of Nikolai Petrovich Gorbunov, the head of the Department of Scientific Institutions. In September 1925 Gorbunov helped allocate US$10,000 to the Academy of Sciences for Ivanov's human-ape hybridization experiments in Africa.

In March 1926 Ivanov arrived at the Kindia facility, but stayed only a month without success. The Kindia site, it turned out, had no sexually mature chimpanzees. He returned to France where he arranged through correspondence with French Guinea's colonial governor to set up experiments at the botanical gardens in Conakry.

Ivanov reached Conakry in November 1926 accompanied by his son, also named Ilya, who would assist him in his experiments. Ivanov supervised the capture of adult chimpanzees in the interior of the colony, which were brought to Conakry and kept in cages in the botanical gardens.

I suspect that the chimps were caught in Cameroon, which is next to Conakry, and contained the virus.

On February 28, 1927, Ivanov artificially inseminated two female chimpanzees with human sperm (not his own or his son's). On June 25, he injected a third chimpanzee with human sperm. The Ivanovs left Africa in July with thirteen chimps, including the three used in his experiments. They already knew before leaving that the first two chimpanzees had failed to become pregnant. The third died in France, and was also found not to have been pregnant. The remaining chimps were sent to a new primate station at Sukhumi.

Although Ivanov attempted to organize the insemination of human females with chimpanzee sperm in Guinea, these plans met with resistance from the French colonial government and there is no evidence such an experiment was arranged there.


http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19926701.000-the-forgotten-scandal-of-the-soviet-apeman.html


Is is too much to think that perhaps Ivanov also tried other experiments whilst in Guinea that he did not write about - experiments where he actually used local women as 'slaves' for his experiments and that he either did not write about it as they failed or that the results were hidden.

At that period of history humans were worthless.

Stalin was slaughtering millions in Russia and so the lives of black women in Africa under the French colonial government that were willing to allow this maniac to enact his insane experiments would also have been regarded as worthless.

Perhaps local women, perhaps prostitutes, were paid by Ivanon to be injected with chimp sperm and then they left the camp and spread the AID's virus in the mining camps and towns of the colony.

The fact that the origin of AID'S and the timing of these experiments and the location of the virus in the chimpanzee population and the ability of the virus to transfer due to the experiments link all the pieces together.

I suggest that scientists look closely into this theory, as it appears that this may be the source of the mechanism whereby the AID's virus shifted from chimps to humans.


Here are links to consider ;

1) The virus is present in chimps in the area that Ivanov did his experiments

2) Ivanov wanted too insert chimp sperm into females and probably did so in the area of Conakry during his experiments

3) That the chimps he used were caught in next door Cameroon at that time French West Africa

4) The virus jumped into humans at the same time as Ivanov was doing his experiments

5) The virus was from chimps in the area he was doing his research

6) The females he probably did the experiments on, inseminating them with infected chimp sperm, were probably prostitutes paid to do so

7) They then spread the disease to other human beings in the area once infected via the sex trade

8) Chimpanzees do not develop AIDS from HIV, but they can spread the virus, so they are not allowed to breed after being infected in lab experiments. So chimp sperm can pass the HIV virus and therefore an infected chimp sperm sample inseminated into a human being can pass HIV to a human being.




































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