The Archbishop should root out the pederast vipers from inside the Church and deal with the greed of his own advisers who invested hundreds of millions of pounds in the stock markets of Mammon.
A church that gambles its followers money on the stock market is a church of mammon.
The Church is a joke - it is virtually no longer Christian, no longer represents England and the English and is infiltrated by Marxists, politically correct homosexuals and politically correct lesbians.
The church is part of the establishment, and as part of the establishment it is also as corrupt as the rest of it.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/welsh-politics/welsh-politics-news/2009/12/26/archbishop-in-war-of-words-with-bnp-over-christianity-91466-25462010/
Archbishop in war of words with BNP over Christianity
Dec 26 2009 by David Williamson, South Wales Echo
ARCHBISHOP of Wales Barry Morgan has become embroiled in a furious war of words with the BNP over the far-right party’s claim to represent “Christian values”.
Cardiff-based Dr Morgan denounced comments by Nick Griffin linking the party and Christianity and claiming it stood in the tradition of crusader knights who fought Muslim armies.
The Anglican leader, whose comments were echoed by other leaders of Christian faith groups in Wales, said: “I really do object to their claim to represent Christian cultural values. Unless you’re white and Anglo-Saxon you don’t seem to count for very much.
“That runs totally against any Christian understanding of humanity where we believe each person is made in the image of God.”
But his remarks have led to a furious response from party officials.
BNP deputy leader Simon Darby said: “If these church leaders are not prepared to defend Christianity themselves, they should not complain when someone else does just that.
“It’s all very well people like the Archbishop talking about defending Christian values but at the end of the day they are not prepared to do anything about it. He should probably be prosecuted under the Trade Descriptions Act.
“Whole swathes of London, for example, are no longer Christian, and people like the Archbishop have been quite happy to stand by and see churches turned into mosques.
“If someone doesn’t stand up for real Christian values it won’t be a Christian country for very much longer but an Islamic republic.”
Dr Morgan’s comments, which coincide with his traditional Christmas sermon in Llandaff Cathedral yesterday, were made in an interview in which he also spoke out in support of the families of troops serving in Afghanistan.
He described the fear experienced by families who have loved ones in a war-zone and acknowledged the cost in human life of recent conflicts.
Dr Morgan said: “Whatever one thinks of whether we ought to be in [Afghanistan], the fact is these decisions have been made whether they were right or wrong.That’s not the fault of soldiers.
“They go because that’s what they are required to do. The families left behind are at times worried sick.
“If you are in the middle of a conflict you get on with the job and you don’t always think about the dangers [whereas] families at home are just dreading the knock on the door or the ring of the telephone.”
Support for the families of members of the armed forces has become an important pastoral task in churches throughout Wales.
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A bit more Old Testament I think is required from the Church leaders.
I wonder if the Archbishop will say that Osama Bin Laden is made in the image of God.--Lee
He may not say it but he probably believes it...that is if the thought has crossed his mind. According to Christianity, all are made in the image of God. That would include terrorists and pedophiles. It should also be noted that image doesn't necessarily mean what we think it means (physical appearance). When I was a christian, the consensus was that image was related to the concept of the trinity. God is one but existing three ways (Father, Son, and Holy Ghost) and we are individuals existing three ways (body, soul, and spirit). At least that's how it was explained in my circle. This whole concept puts a lot of people off, but still.
BNP deputy leader Simon Darby said: “If these church leaders are not prepared to defend Christianity themselves, they should not complain when someone else does just that...“If someone doesn’t stand up for real Christian values it won’t be a Christian country for very much longer but an Islamic republic.”
I wonder how he defines real Christianity. I'm leary of people who speak in such terms.
Religion in this country mugs more old women in one weekend than all the muggers in our cities in the entire year.
There is as much evidence of green men on Mars than there is that a God exists.
Unless they can produce evidence that there is a God then the Police should arrest all religous leaders for obtaining money by deception and return all donations obtained by fraud.
I agree with your assesment, these Clergy are either Brain dead or Traitors if they cannot see what is happening.
Demographics alone tells us we will be a Muslim majority within 50 yrs, probably less.
So Which is it, Brain dead moron or Treasonous Genocidal Marxist who, like fellow Commie Straw believes 'The British are not worth saving as a race'
Lord Pearson
A few DVD's containg the above interview sprinkled into his flock might wake his congregation up to the lies they are being peddled by this Fake Christian.
Here's another one.
Demographics and Treachery
All people need do is look around them to decide if the above two videos are true.
So which is it Reverend, Brain dead or Traitor, hoping to cloroform your British Flock just long enough that the deed can be done and Western Europe Islamified.
I wonder what payoff he has been offered by the EU for helping to put the British people to sleep over this issue.
Then again, with all the scandals in the press about our clergy, I'm not really sure I want to know.
Archbishop Morgan is a liar and a Bible blockhead to boot.
No man (or woman (womb-man) or 'person'), not even a Christian, is fully made in the image of God today*. Ever since the Fall, Genesis 3, "men...are made after the similitude of God" James 3:9, my emphasis.
*When Paul uses the term with respect to a Christian man in 1 Corinthians 11:7, he is referring to the inner transformation that takes place at conversion, not men in general and not the physical being or "outward man" that perishes, 2 Corinthians 4:16.
"Image" and "similitude" are not synonymous. The Colosseum in Rome is a similitude of its former self but it is certainly not the image.
The only full image of God in existence today is the Lord Jesus Christ "Who is the image of the invisible God" Colossians 1:15, my emphasis.
Today's archbishops are among those "deceiving, and being deceived" 2 Timothy 3:13. They are some of the frontrunners* of those who've led this nation 'to hell on a handcart' ever since the Jesuit-inspired 5th Column Oxford Movement of the 19th century.
*KJB-denying Christian 'fundamentalists' are up there with the leaders, rest assured.
I trust the BNP continues to whip the tar out of them.
"Image" and "similitude" are not synonymous. The Colosseum in Rome is a similitude of its former self but it is certainly not the image.
The only full image of God in existence today is the Lord Jesus Christ "Who is the image of the invisible God" Colossians 1:15, my emphasis.--AlanOrei
The OT and NT were written in two different languages so we may not be able to conclude that the NT passage automatically cancels out the OT or that the concepts are different. Just because one is made in God's image doesn't mean that all of their actions are God breathed.
Re: The OT and NT were written in two different languages
3 actually, if you include Aramaic (e.g. Daniel 2:4-7:28). However, they were written by God, Who preserved them in the King's English as the KJB, so the difference is irrelevant.
Re: so we may not be able to conclude that the NT passage automatically cancels out the OT or that the concepts are different.
It doesn't and they aren't. You overlooked Genesis 5:3.
Re: Just because one is made in God's image
No-one is. See earlier post and the above.
Re: doesn't mean that all of their actions are God breathed.
The point at issue is that the bulk of C of E leaders today are delusional, habitual liars when judged according to scripture. If this is what you meant, then in that respect you are correct.
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